You, sir, are a pig.
Breast size is determined by nature. To quoted yourself: 'and one has to learn to make the most of what one has and improve oneself rather than sulk about the hand dealt by nature.'
she has such a weird face, that she might actually stand a chance as a high fashion model. kind of pudgy and inbred. the eyebrows are hideous. and to top it, her face looks like that of a 12-year old girl (just imagine normal eyebrows).
You all are smoking the crack pipe. She is hot end of discussion. This is the first thread i have ever read that says otherwise. For those of you that think she looks like an adolescent male transvestite, you my friends are the minority. And you are a very disturbed minority at that.
Blahblah. Who cares.
I agree that skinny Eva does not look good, but that's because she looks unhealthy. Other than that, they're both attractive women.
But, please, could you cover the girls up more? To analyze their body shape nobody needs to see areolas or pubes. It doesn't actually do alot for the credibility of this site which is pretty non-existant to start with.
I don't get the point of this site either...
Women buy the clothes high-fashion models wear and men buy porn with big boobed bimbos. (It doesn't seem like men are paying much attention to the faces there, because... wow, there's alot of ugly going on. But neither can anyone remember the faces of 90% of the runway models. It is about the clothes.) Everyone's happy. And most women in pageants are just butterfaces. It's always like the runner up is the prettier one.
They both have beautiful bodies, but Elle's face is definately better. And "glamour" models really isn't the right word. More like "cheap porn" models.
Alessandra Ambrosio looks more like an Italian girl or an Argentine rather than your typical Latina women which are typically short and fat. Latina women have circlaur or rounder shaped faces and/ or heads, whilst Alessandra has a retrangluar shaped face.
The_Waheed: I am not sure what you are trying to get at, but factors other than looks and intellect matter, too. Personality, behavior, wealth, etc. also matter. Some people are more concerned with how spiritual others are and little concerned with how wealthy, good looking or intelligent other people are.
If thicker-than-population-average lips in women are appreciated, it isn’t because they indicate resistance to disease but because some processes have shaped the typical brain to appreciate this condition. Feminization is one factor that causes lip thickening, and a preference for thicker-than-population-average lips in women is consistent with a population-typical preference for above average femininity in women. Whether there is any correlation with disease resistance, I do not know.
Kristin: Take a good look at Alessandra’s newer pictures; her breasts look fake. Yes, there are tall, slender women with prominent natural breasts, but Alessandra is not one of them. As far as bust-waist-hip ratios are concerned, pictures of fashion models are much more informative about how feminine they are, and Alessandra’s pictures speak for themselves. Who is arguing that white women “are better by nature” than colored women? My argument is that an objective comparison cannot be made between individuals belonging to different ethnic groups.
Andrew: I have not said that Alessandra looks like a man; she certainly doesn’t. However, Alessandra is a masculine or manly woman; her face could be mistaken for that of an adolescent male transvestite’s, but not an adult male transvestite’s. Models may be selected to display the beauty of women, but those who do the selection will select women they find to be beautiful if they can get away with it, which in the fashion world translates to masculinized girls/women given the domination of the fashion business by homosexual men.
Kristin: Nobody is arguing that all sub-Saharan Africans look alike; all such women in this section look different. I don’t see what is the big deal with Alek Wek. She is shown in very few places and not one of the places where she has been shown is supposed to depict a typical sub-Saharan African, which would be difficult to come up with given the diversity in sub-Saharan Africa. If you go through the entire section, you will encounter several pictures of women with predominant sub-Saharan African ancestry that are sourced from glamour photography. In some cases it was necessary to obtain pictures of !kung, KhoiKhoi or Congolese women, but I did not encounter glamour photography involving them, and went along with pictures sourced from anthropological resources.
Ehh... I just think that if you think that Alessandra looks like a man then you have a impossible image of a woman... because she is good as it gets in my opinion. And Kristin as far as you argument I find Jessica alba gorgeous as well but there are some pretty good looking "white girls" such as Marisa Miller and Kiera Knightly. In today’s social makeup (I'm assuming most of you are from America) the population is so diverse that minorities are quickly becoming the norm. So the definition is unclear as to what a white woman is. Is a white woman a pale blue eye blonde hair girl, no. In my opinion Jessica Alba is a white woman. But I don’t think any one "race" is loosing there pretty girls. All ethnic groups have there drop dead gorgeous women. That’s all I’m saying. And Eric, models are the cream of the crop... that’s not to say that other women couldn’t take there place... at the college I attend, I see a different girl everyday that could take one of those models spots. They have just been lucky enough to be selected to display the beauty of women as a whole. So stop being so pessimistic about these girls. Because I have a hard time believing that you don’t find these women attractive.
Kristin: The great majority of the sub-Saharan African women shown are not overweight, and none of the comparisons are about percentage body fat. Most of the women featured in your links have part non-sub-Saharan African ancestry, which appears to be the majority component in Christina Milian. How are these women, except for Miss Trinidad and Tobago, representative of sub-Saharan Africans?
Alek Wek has a face that is an excellent example of a sub-Saharan African face except for a forehead that is rounder than average in side view and her jaws, which do not protrude as much as in her more feminine counterparts.
The sub-Saharan African element in North Africa is minor, and the sub-Saharan African stock in the Americas and especially in East Africa is admixed with non-sub-Saharan African elements. Therefore, since the purpose of the section is to examine whether women from different ethnic groups can be objectively compared aesthetically, rather than to depict pictures capturing the diversity around the world, this question is best answered by focusing on the outliers: Northern Europeans, Northeast Asians, Australian aborigines and sub-Saharan Africans. This is the reason why humans in between the outliers are not extensively addressed in the pictures.
The section features pictures of unattractive white women and also glamour photography of women with predominant sub-Saharan African ancestry. Sub-Saharan African women tend to have thicker waists than European women, not the other way around as you have implied, and there are plenty of inter-group differences in physical appearance that make it impossible to objectively compare the attractiveness of Sub-Saharan African women with that of European women, which is the message that you need to get.
Andrew: The picture of Alessandra you linked to is blurry and not very informative. One can make out masculinization in her face and also her fake breasts. If heterosexual men not aware of Alessandra are shown your picture for the first time, some may consider her to be decent looking, though the appropriate response would be one of caution, i.e., not judging her unless one sees clearer pictures. The pictures shown above are clearer, and there are plenty of pictures at the site you got your picture from that more clearly bring out Alessandra’s masculinization, but you have not linked to any of these pictures.
Should a woman’s attractiveness be judged from obscure pictures or clear pictures? Besides, it is curious that you are willing to label me a homosexual for finding Alessandra more manly and hence less appealing than the more feminine women in the attractive women section of this site.
Pineapple: I am sorry to hear about Jessie Gilbert. May her soul rest in peace. The major reason for her absence among the ranks of the attractive was the masculinization in her face.
On the other hand, your contention that unattractive individuals are more common than attractive ones because humans have more genes than others and thereby more things to go wrong is not quite correct. Living organisms are characterized by canalization of development, whereby physiological control attempts to channel development along a specified pathway as opposed to other possible pathways. The latter is achieved by involving multiple elements in the development of a structure, which ensures that if something goes wrong with one element then there is plenty of back up to lead to the desired outcome. Even though single-gene anomalies can lead to undesirable outcomes, genetic anomalies with functionally severe consequences are uncommon.
It is true that mutations are relevant to unattractiveness, but there are several other reasons behind the uncommonality of attractiveness, which would perhaps be a topic for a separate entry.
where did u get the pics of black women from--most black women's bodies are not shaped liek that.. i can't believe you would post anthopological study pics(which only focus on these obscure women in teh 'bush'). get some pics of normal women in nigeria, living/working in lagos... what about womenin north africa, east africa, adn for that matter u knocked out much o f west. i am black.... quite frankly i am insulted you piclked a bunch of overweight women to show what black women look like vs. other ethnic groups, while getting glamorized photos of especially white women... i would love for you to compare the avergate body of a british women with other ethicities---if you wnat to get rugged. secondly many black women are not all afircan---where is the depiction of them... alek wek isn;t even the norm for africa. her features are very very drastic ompared to most. her body type is common to only small populations of people----her tribe si not the african norm. most african women are shaped sorta liek white women, jsut about ten pounds heavier at the same height(that is what i read in a legitimte study--if u want some info, jsut let me know)also , they tend to have larger breastsa nd hips for that same body size and slightly mroe muscle mass for the same weight. teh average british woman9which is where most caucasioan women in the US can consider their ancestors) have smaller breasts, thicker waists, and falt, wider hips. the "square" si the new term abuzz in the garment industry because it applies to teh majoriy tof white women in america---- less waist defnition, balanced hips/shoulders/chest. do ur research foirst on hwat real women look like. before posting opffensive comparisons please. i don't mena to be harsh... but i seriously think it must have a subconciosu effort on one person on the staff--who perjhaps thinks black women are unnatractive to post hideous pics of them---whiel glamorizing the other ethnic groups---as we are all human---races don't truly exist---scientifically it has been proven its in outr heads.... please email me back.. i would love to corrrespond with you on this issue. sorry fo rthe misspellings... i am in a rush.
and I cant find the other pic i was wanting to include but it would make a gay man staight. thats how beautiful she is. now alba is pretty good looking to but know where near alessandra. take a look at that pic and tell me you wouldnt like to hit that and if you say no. i will tell you that your a fudge packer!
You, sir, are a pig.
Breast size is determined by nature. To quoted yourself: 'and one has to learn to make the most of what one has and improve oneself rather than sulk about the hand dealt by nature.'
Are you not sulking about that very hand?
oh, and please make comments available on the other porn stars, too, you put out quite the uglies sometimes.
she has such a weird face, that she might actually stand a chance as a high fashion model. kind of pudgy and inbred. the eyebrows are hideous. and to top it, her face looks like that of a 12-year old girl (just imagine normal eyebrows).
You all are smoking the crack pipe. She is hot end of discussion. This is the first thread i have ever read that says otherwise. For those of you that think she looks like an adolescent male transvestite, you my friends are the minority. And you are a very disturbed minority at that.
Blahblah. Who cares.
I agree that skinny Eva does not look good, but that's because she looks unhealthy. Other than that, they're both attractive women.
But, please, could you cover the girls up more? To analyze their body shape nobody needs to see areolas or pubes. It doesn't actually do alot for the credibility of this site which is pretty non-existant to start with.
I don't get the point of this site either...
Women buy the clothes high-fashion models wear and men buy porn with big boobed bimbos. (It doesn't seem like men are paying much attention to the faces there, because... wow, there's alot of ugly going on. But neither can anyone remember the faces of 90% of the runway models. It is about the clothes.) Everyone's happy. And most women in pageants are just butterfaces. It's always like the runner up is the prettier one.
They both have beautiful bodies, but Elle's face is definately better. And "glamour" models really isn't the right word. More like "cheap porn" models.
Alessandra Ambrosio looks more like an Italian girl or an Argentine rather than your typical Latina women which are typically short and fat. Latina women have circlaur or rounder shaped faces and/ or heads, whilst Alessandra has a retrangluar shaped face.
The_Waheed: I am not sure what you are trying to get at, but factors other than looks and intellect matter, too. Personality, behavior, wealth, etc. also matter. Some people are more concerned with how spiritual others are and little concerned with how wealthy, good looking or intelligent other people are.
If thicker-than-population-average lips in women are appreciated, it isn’t because they indicate resistance to disease but because some processes have shaped the typical brain to appreciate this condition. Feminization is one factor that causes lip thickening, and a preference for thicker-than-population-average lips in women is consistent with a population-typical preference for above average femininity in women. Whether there is any correlation with disease resistance, I do not know.
Kristin: Take a good look at Alessandra’s newer pictures; her breasts look fake. Yes, there are tall, slender women with prominent natural breasts, but Alessandra is not one of them. As far as bust-waist-hip ratios are concerned, pictures of fashion models are much more informative about how feminine they are, and Alessandra’s pictures speak for themselves. Who is arguing that white women “are better by nature” than colored women? My argument is that an objective comparison cannot be made between individuals belonging to different ethnic groups.
Andrew: I have not said that Alessandra looks like a man; she certainly doesn’t. However, Alessandra is a masculine or manly woman; her face could be mistaken for that of an adolescent male transvestite’s, but not an adult male transvestite’s. Models may be selected to display the beauty of women, but those who do the selection will select women they find to be beautiful if they can get away with it, which in the fashion world translates to masculinized girls/women given the domination of the fashion business by homosexual men.
Kristin: Nobody is arguing that all sub-Saharan Africans look alike; all such women in this section look different. I don’t see what is the big deal with Alek Wek. She is shown in very few places and not one of the places where she has been shown is supposed to depict a typical sub-Saharan African, which would be difficult to come up with given the diversity in sub-Saharan Africa. If you go through the entire section, you will encounter several pictures of women with predominant sub-Saharan African ancestry that are sourced from glamour photography. In some cases it was necessary to obtain pictures of !kung, KhoiKhoi or Congolese women, but I did not encounter glamour photography involving them, and went along with pictures sourced from anthropological resources.
Ehh... I just think that if you think that Alessandra looks like a man then you have a impossible image of a woman... because she is good as it gets in my opinion. And Kristin as far as you argument I find Jessica alba gorgeous as well but there are some pretty good looking "white girls" such as Marisa Miller and Kiera Knightly. In today’s social makeup (I'm assuming most of you are from America) the population is so diverse that minorities are quickly becoming the norm. So the definition is unclear as to what a white woman is. Is a white woman a pale blue eye blonde hair girl, no. In my opinion Jessica Alba is a white woman. But I don’t think any one "race" is loosing there pretty girls. All ethnic groups have there drop dead gorgeous women. That’s all I’m saying. And Eric, models are the cream of the crop... that’s not to say that other women couldn’t take there place... at the college I attend, I see a different girl everyday that could take one of those models spots. They have just been lucky enough to be selected to display the beauty of women as a whole. So stop being so pessimistic about these girls. Because I have a hard time believing that you don’t find these women attractive.
Fuller lips are supposed to increase attractiveness, this is because they apprently represent resistance to disease.
But is there any evidence to suggest that fuller lips represent increased immunity to disease?
and if not why then find it attractive?
Erik, do you agree that sociaty is actually very linear and based almost entirely on looks and intelect?
Kristin: Your comment does not belong to this entry, and it doesn’t make much sense.
Kristin: The great majority of the sub-Saharan African women shown are not overweight, and none of the comparisons are about percentage body fat. Most of the women featured in your links have part non-sub-Saharan African ancestry, which appears to be the majority component in Christina Milian. How are these women, except for Miss Trinidad and Tobago, representative of sub-Saharan Africans?
Alek Wek has a face that is an excellent example of a sub-Saharan African face except for a forehead that is rounder than average in side view and her jaws, which do not protrude as much as in her more feminine counterparts.
The sub-Saharan African element in North Africa is minor, and the sub-Saharan African stock in the Americas and especially in East Africa is admixed with non-sub-Saharan African elements. Therefore, since the purpose of the section is to examine whether women from different ethnic groups can be objectively compared aesthetically, rather than to depict pictures capturing the diversity around the world, this question is best answered by focusing on the outliers: Northern Europeans, Northeast Asians, Australian aborigines and sub-Saharan Africans. This is the reason why humans in between the outliers are not extensively addressed in the pictures.
The section features pictures of unattractive white women and also glamour photography of women with predominant sub-Saharan African ancestry. Sub-Saharan African women tend to have thicker waists than European women, not the other way around as you have implied, and there are plenty of inter-group differences in physical appearance that make it impossible to objectively compare the attractiveness of Sub-Saharan African women with that of European women, which is the message that you need to get.
Andrew: The picture of Alessandra you linked to is blurry and not very informative. One can make out masculinization in her face and also her fake breasts. If heterosexual men not aware of Alessandra are shown your picture for the first time, some may consider her to be decent looking, though the appropriate response would be one of caution, i.e., not judging her unless one sees clearer pictures. The pictures shown above are clearer, and there are plenty of pictures at the site you got your picture from that more clearly bring out Alessandra’s masculinization, but you have not linked to any of these pictures.
Should a woman’s attractiveness be judged from obscure pictures or clear pictures? Besides, it is curious that you are willing to label me a homosexual for finding Alessandra more manly and hence less appealing than the more feminine women in the attractive women section of this site.
Pineapple: I am sorry to hear about Jessie Gilbert. May her soul rest in peace. The major reason for her absence among the ranks of the attractive was the masculinization in her face.
On the other hand, your contention that unattractive individuals are more common than attractive ones because humans have more genes than others and thereby more things to go wrong is not quite correct. Living organisms are characterized by canalization of development, whereby physiological control attempts to channel development along a specified pathway as opposed to other possible pathways. The latter is achieved by involving multiple elements in the development of a structure, which ensures that if something goes wrong with one element then there is plenty of back up to lead to the desired outcome. Even though single-gene anomalies can lead to undesirable outcomes, genetic anomalies with functionally severe consequences are uncommon.
It is true that mutations are relevant to unattractiveness, but there are several other reasons behind the uncommonality of attractiveness, which would perhaps be a topic for a separate entry.
where did u get the pics of black women from--most black women's bodies are not shaped liek that.. i can't believe you would post anthopological study pics(which only focus on these obscure women in teh 'bush'). get some pics of normal women in nigeria, living/working in lagos... what about womenin north africa, east africa, adn for that matter u knocked out much o f west. i am black.... quite frankly i am insulted you piclked a bunch of overweight women to show what black women look like vs. other ethnic groups, while getting glamorized photos of especially white women... i would love for you to compare the avergate body of a british women with other ethicities---if you wnat to get rugged. secondly many black women are not all afircan---where is the depiction of them... alek wek isn;t even the norm for africa. her features are very very drastic ompared to most. her body type is common to only small populations of people----her tribe si not the african norm. most african women are shaped sorta liek white women, jsut about ten pounds heavier at the same height(that is what i read in a legitimte study--if u want some info, jsut let me know)also , they tend to have larger breastsa nd hips for that same body size and slightly mroe muscle mass for the same weight. teh average british woman9which is where most caucasioan women in the US can consider their ancestors) have smaller breasts, thicker waists, and falt, wider hips. the "square" si the new term abuzz in the garment industry because it applies to teh majoriy tof white women in america---- less waist defnition, balanced hips/shoulders/chest. do ur research foirst on hwat real women look like. before posting opffensive comparisons please. i don't mena to be harsh... but i seriously think it must have a subconciosu effort on one person on the staff--who perjhaps thinks black women are unnatractive to post hideous pics of them---whiel glamorizing the other ethnic groups---as we are all human---races don't truly exist---scientifically it has been proven its in outr heads.... please email me back.. i would love to corrrespond with you on this issue. sorry fo rthe misspellings... i am in a rush.
Alessandra is in my opinion the best looking woman on the face of the earth! If you think otherwise just check out this photo. http://www.sfondis.com/albums/A/Alessandra%20Ambrosio/alessandra_ambrosio_005.jpg
and I cant find the other pic i was wanting to include but it would make a gay man staight. thats how beautiful she is. now alba is pretty good looking to but know where near alessandra. take a look at that pic and tell me you wouldnt like to hit that and if you say no. i will tell you that your a fudge packer!
This site explains to me why I have never been turned on by superman models like Elle. Thanks for the explanation and articulation.
I vote for the female. He-Man (LMAO) turns me off.
That is so sad and depressing(Jessie Gilbert), poor girl, what a terrible loss of a smart young girl.
I had once lived in California and appearances can the most deceiving thing, also tiring.
pineapple,
is that you or just a woman you hate? why pick on her?
Picture 1
Maybe Erik Holland can say why this face is not attractive.
Now this is an example of an unattractive face
Jessie Gilbert:
http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=3258
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