How do you define "high quality m,en"'? Is there any study you reference? As far as I know Higher quality men can be found more among "non-lifetime exclusive heterosexuals" or men that "narrowly escaped non-heterosexuality" and therefore would be more appealing to women to garner as lang term partners. For example Donald Trump (certainly not my choice) would be appealing to women in regards to his wealth and his choice of women seems to be fairly masculinized.
Also, what do you imagine as a "mainstream outlet for feminine beauty apreciation"? The only thing I could think of is either a high profile nude magazine or an alternative women's fashion industry.
As it is now the people in charge (who rightfully earned their dominating status) are the one's who make the call about which women represent them.
What I want to know is why you think that taking the time and energy to make this site is in any way useful as opposed to, for example, starting your own pin-up magazine/site representing a high standard in feminine beauty without all the complaining, verbal discrimination and gay conspiracy theories which make this site offensive and readily dismissed by many readers as the rants of a bitter misogynist. Presentation is everything and you are doing it the wrong way if you want your opinion to be recognized in a positive light.
Are you crazy or something? Do you have friends family job or do you sit typing snide snarky comments about famous people just because you happen to be a loser. If you are a woman you are bitchy, if you are a man you must be a pedo or sex addict( pics of every women in the porn business)
Giselle wouldn't be a supermodel with millions of men drooling at her feet e.g leo di caprio. The owner of this website is just jealous of her beauty. She may be whatever but she is rich beautiful and a website like this can only make the owner adequate and make them feel even more inferiority complexed.
Back to the Grace v Gisele thing... Look at the tits and hips, Gisele has neither, whereas Grace has well shaped beautiful curves and boobs to be proud of. Like I said months ago, Gisele is a walking surfboard, forget the tanned skin compared to the paleness of Grace, as far as feminine curves and sexiness Grace is 9/10 compared to Gisele at 1/10 (Gisele has an ugly long neck too.)
Forget all this "beauty is in the eye of the beholder) sure, a twisted gay or lesbian will find Gisele's looks arousing, but the fact remains, Grace as a WOMAN is far more sexy, beautiful, arousing, inviting.
Susie: A lot of men would be watching these pageants if the women were typically feminine and attractive. Whereas charisma and brains would be relevant to a personality contest, I don’t believe they should be issues in a beauty pageant except to function as tie breakers if the women obtain the same physical attractiveness scores. I don’t believe that the likes of Snow should be competing in high-profile beauty pageants because of insufficient attractiveness. The purpose of using her was to show how even ordinary-looking women can outcompete a Miss USA in the femininity department.
Bron: I didn’t say that Marketa looks bad. She looks like a girl in her early- to mid-teens, and is better looking than most girls in this age range. Since she doesn’t pose nude, she could be younger than 18, but the website featuring her pictures, glamour.cz, claims that all its models are 18 or older. So Marketa is likely 18 in the pictures, but doesn’t look 18 except for her lower body.
Sarah: I respond to emails, but it takes me a while to do so, often a couple of weeks. I haven’t received any email from you.
Posting pictures of others goes against the TOS of hotornot. If you wanted to prove that the women in the attractive women section are not attractive as far as most are concerned, wait for me to replace about 5-6 women there and then feel free to provide pictures of women whom you consider to be attractive. I will put up their pictures and others can see for themselves just who is better looking. Send me an email and I will contact you when I have improved the attractive women section to my liking.
People like you and 8D are foul because of your use of profanity, lack of manners given that you are a guest at a site not owned by you, not heeding requests to behave (this applies to your earlier behavior) and use of pathetic techniques such as ad hominem, character assassination, misrepresentation, criticism of scientific material when you are clearly incapable of understanding it, etc.
Any person of full European ancestry with good taste would see these women are not attractive, Erik. Just because I don't happen to be of full European descent, it doesn't mean I cannot judge attractiveness in all kinds of people. Your "logic" is such bullshit.
I will guarantee you that if you post up pictures of these ugly women on online rating websites like HOTORNOT, they wouldn't get over a 7. In fact, HOTORNOT is open to the general public and even though many people have taste as bad as yours, they still would see your "attractive women" as less than average.
Would you like me to do that for you? Let's just see what kind of ratings these women will get :)
And how am I and 8D "foul individuals?" Just because we disagree with you? Yea, okay. Again, nice logic. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions, sweetie.
I still don't understand your point about marketing lingerie. Marketing and advertisement is something which is thought out to the very extreme, nothing is left to coincidence, so I really don't think the lingerie companies are doing anything wrong (in respect to selling the most) by using the models they are using. If they knew that using more feminine models would make them just a minimally higher amount of profit, that is just what they would be doing.
A woman in an earlier comment thread brought up that women buy lingerie for themselves not men, this is true. Women like cute colours, lace and applications, girly stuff. Most women also have no problem of sexually arousing a man even if they are wearing their white cotton set. Furthermore most women are WELL aware of what their body looks like, are very critical of it and of other women's bodies and know that wearing something modelled by a vs model will not give them the model's body but it's cute and worth spending money for nevertheless. I kind of forgot what point I was trying to make, lol, thinking about nice underwear.
Oh, and have you ever seen the cute bras they have for large cups? Not a lot of options there unfortunately. I totally understand why the models are required to only have B-C cups (also the average in the general population). Beyond D it all seems to be fleshtoned granny bras :( I am often envious that some of the gorgeous whisps of transparency are only for the A cups.
BTW, sorry for commenting on old threads, I'm chronologically going through the archives...
What The Hell...
It's hilarious, but don't spend so much time and thought on trivial bs like this, it's not that anyone actually watches these except for making fun of the contestants. Yes, cosmetic surgery should be banned from beauty pageants, and I don't personally find Miss Conner apealling.
I would appreciate a beauty pageant in which many different body shapes and face types were represented, and I do dislike (well, I don't actually care much) that contestantsare starting to look more and more like the high fashion girls. But I think the line up of contestans should represent very different forms of beauty as also found in the general population and who the winner is is also decided by charisma and brains because the contestans are supposed to be role-models of sorts for young girls and not pieces of meat for men to drool over (oh, haha, that's not how I really think it works, but it should).
So in conclusion I think it would be as wrong to only have the likes of Snow in such competitions, but it could give confidence to girls with bodies like hers if some of the contestants represented a very feminine body type. ( and admittedly I think it would give many men a reason to tune in.)
Forget it Susie, fashion models look trashy just the same, they only look less human ,like corpses, or trannies in addition. It's just your imagination, they are classy in their own eyes, and those of their kind.
Another thing about Pamela Anderson: as seen in the picture you posted larger, she has had her lower ribs removed to allow for a slimmer torso. It looks very unnatural. But I have to say I do understand the appeal she had when she still had her youth going for her.
I also think that many women want to resemble high fashion models because of their youthful looks often reminding women of their own younger days (especially before giving birth). Also a lot of women resent being looked at by men in a pure sexual way, which having a very feminine body with pronounced secondary sex characteristics and a feminine face (sorry, but it does give more of a dumb and "bimbo"-like impression) entails. A lot of especially revealing fashion can only look classy on slim, tall, althletic, small breasted women and looks thrashy and vulgar on extremely feminine women with large breasts, another point of envy. And while large breasts can be pulled of with the right proportions on a tall woman, a short woman most likely will look "fat" with unusually large breasts and is often reduces by men to just these. While this is of course beneficial for women who want to work in the business of being sexually appealing to men, it explains why alot of everyday women would prefer the body of a high fashion model.
Erik, could you explain, please, what is wrong/bad about the looks of Marketa?(a girl in first 2 photos). She is maybe the prettiest young woman on this site, looks young, girlie, feminine, very pristine. Not like little baby, except her poorly developed breasts, but many old women have small ones, too. Her face could be anywhere from early teens to early twenties, some rare individuals retain such young face beyond their thirties, too. Also, her slender built, narrow shoulders and ribcage are enviable.She looks much better than those mummies- fashion models, with massive facial bones and large skeletons.
Danielle: All women in the five pictures in your last comment look adult. To clarify, the first three are in the attractive women section, and the first one is listed on a page that shows somewhat masculinized women, i.e., she is not an example of feminine beauty. The woman on the left in the fourth picture was removed from the attractive women section a long time ago and I told you a while ago that I will be removing the woman on the right, too, from this section. The woman in the fifth picture was also removed from the attractive women section many months ago.
Posting pictures like these does not by any means suggest that the poster is a white supremacist, just as the rest of the site’s content does not imply white supremacism.
Sarah: Whereas you may dislike the faces of the women in the attractive women section, this doesn’t hold true for most people that I am targeting: the general population of European ancestry, to which you and other prominent critics/foul individuals such as 8D and “Aileen” don’t belong. Danielle hasn’t helped by posting pictures of some women either removed or targeted for removal from the attractive women section, and both women in the fourth picture were originally added largely as a result of their physiques, not faces, which wouldn’t be clear in the kind of random posting by Danielle. I am unable to post pictures of the best looking women at present because I am mostly forced to select among nude models, but wait and watch.
It is naïve to believe that Charlize Theron is a star because of her superior attractiveness but the others are not because of their lack of attractiveness. There are many other factors at play such as luck, willingness to deal with the casting couch, connections, or bad career decision as in posing nude in an explicit manner, etc. The casting couch issue would presumably not apply to the woman on the left in the fourth image because she is a porn star. The only plus that Charlize has is her face; her physique was never as feminine as any of the five women’s in Danielle’s last post.
I don’t see anything manly about the woman in the small picture shown at the top right. I just like this picture; the woman in it doesn’t have to be very feminine or very attractive. A close-up of her doesn’t reveal manly looks.
Ok i have read some of the articles on this website... are you trying to say that woman who have high cheekbones, don't have much of a butt and are skinny aren't attractive? Yea thanks alot *sarcasm*. I am 5'9 and weigh 110lbs have a B cup & i don't have much of a butt so am i unattractive?? personally i think we should all just accept our bodies because in my eyes high fashion models and glamour models are attractive, just a different type of attraction if you get what i'm saying? Let me tell you a small story from last year. My mum has always told me that i should be proud of my body because i had what lots of girls didn't, height, skinniness and long legs. I never felt confident and even when she said that i wasn't proud mostly because of this one chick and her mates. So anyway it's PE and some girl in my class goes "you know girls are supposed to have curves" so what? am i not a girl? the maker of this site reminds me of those bitchy girls who constantly bitch about my body. now i don't care, i've grown up alot. i love my body, i'm proud and i should be. curvy girls, skinny girls whatever you are be PROUD
Der Arschloch, Alexander McQueen is not my enemy. I know that narrow-minded simpletons like yourself have a hard time comprehending that the words of a few people from a minority group cannot be used to reflect the thoughts and opinions of all or even most of the members of that group. I don't know where I have ever described myself as a feminist on this site. Your poor reading comprehension skills must have made you come to that conclusion. I know that you like to post links and quotes from other sources instead of making your own arguments but try arguing for yourself for a change. At least you would be better able to post relevant, useful information . Please stop embarrassing yourself, asshole.
I have not seen any videos or images from McQueen’s "Jack the Ripper" show. The images and videos I have seen from his "Highland Rape" show did not impress me. I believe it was his second collection and I think he has grown since then. He has explained that he was trying to depict the rape of Scotland by the English. He provided a likely excuse but I agree that the Highland Rape show had misogynistic elements. I don't really care. I am not going to lose sleep over an old fashion collection that hardly anyone knows or gives a shit about.
McQueen’s 2001 spring/summer collection is still a great example of the creativity of the fashion world regardless of his past work. He is still one of the most creative fashion designers of today. His work is amazing.
You don't know anything about feminism or fashion so stfu.
Der Arschloch, I don't know how you might have formed the opinion that I am a heterophobic feminist banshee who hates beauty. I know that your reading comprehension is abysmal and you have difficulty understanding arguments so maybe you just made that up in your twisted, little head.
LOL! I don't hate "beauty." I think beauty pageants are dull and a waste of time and money. I don't like beauty pageants and I think the contestants are plastic zombies but I don't need them to be kicked out of competitions or try to "educate the public" about their "masculine" looks. I won't do this because unlike you and Eric I know that the world is a remarkably diverse place. I can easily find people or things that I find beautiful and interesting. I don't have to demonize gay people or feminists in order to make my points unlike some people on this site.
I wasn't bashing the looks of the pageant contestants. I had no idea that you though that the beauty pageant contestants were beauties. I thought you shared Eric's opinion that the contestants were too "masculine" and non-Aryan to compete in beauty pageants. I guess I was wrong.
Let the homos do the designing and let the straights choose the models
I don't know if you live in a world of fantasy because it sure seems like you do, hunny bunny. All the high fashion houses are privately owned businesses that provide luxury goods for the people that can afford them. They all have their own designers, CEOs, manufacturers and workers. They are not providing a public service. They are not given government subsidies or funding. They don't the general public a damn thing. I don't know what gives you the idea that "straights" can and should start picking the models from now on. Exactly which "straights" are you referring to? Are you talking about Straight people already involved in the industry or are you talking about freaks like you and Eric?
You are much more deranged than I could ever be. Now stop your politically incorrect babblings. Take my advice. Start getting in touch with your femininity.
What do you think about Nikky Case's legs? Her calves seem rather insubstantial, even though she is wearing high heels, or do her larger thighs give her legs the "cone on it's tip" look? It makes her look somewhat stumpy. Also, I don't see anything special about her buttocks, actually they appear rather flat or maybe large but a bit sagging were it not for her posing (arched back, butt sticking out). Her upper body is nice as far as I can tell with the lingerie and her face is on the cuter side, but overall I don't think she would fit on a runway, most of all because she looks a foot shorter than the models.
Oh and I've always wondered about that picture you have at the top right-hand corner of the "woman" laying down. HOW THE HELL is that feminine and/or attractive? Is that supposed to be a joke?
Although I agree with Erik's take on feminine beauty when it comes to the female body, his taste in faces are absolutely horrible.
How can you consider ANY of those women Danielle listed up above (as well as in your 'attractive women" section) as even a least bit attractive? They are average at best; most of them look like inbreds. I see girls like that everyday and they're so plain looking you'd have to pay me to give them a second glance.
The fourth girl is also butt ugly and looks like a troll.
Be honest, Erik: are you getting paid by these women to post their pictures up and to say they're attractive? I can't think of any other explanation.
How can you think Keeley Hazell and Charlize Theron are attractive and at the same time consider these pathetic women attractive also?
There's a reason why women like Keeley and Charlize are big stars and why those women Danielle posted up above aren't - Keeley and Charlize are actually gorgeous women and they don't look like inbred white trash.
Adriana Lima is gorgeous as well and anyone with normal to good taste can see that.
Your website would have a lot more credibility if you actually stuck by your claim that "feminine beauty is best" and put up pictures of attractive, feminine women and not just women you personally have a liking for. Most people have agreed that your "attractive women" are not attractive at all in terms of general beauty standards. They are only attractive to you.
How do you define "high quality m,en"'? Is there any study you reference? As far as I know Higher quality men can be found more among "non-lifetime exclusive heterosexuals" or men that "narrowly escaped non-heterosexuality" and therefore would be more appealing to women to garner as lang term partners. For example Donald Trump (certainly not my choice) would be appealing to women in regards to his wealth and his choice of women seems to be fairly masculinized.
Also, what do you imagine as a "mainstream outlet for feminine beauty apreciation"? The only thing I could think of is either a high profile nude magazine or an alternative women's fashion industry.
As it is now the people in charge (who rightfully earned their dominating status) are the one's who make the call about which women represent them.
What I want to know is why you think that taking the time and energy to make this site is in any way useful as opposed to, for example, starting your own pin-up magazine/site representing a high standard in feminine beauty without all the complaining, verbal discrimination and gay conspiracy theories which make this site offensive and readily dismissed by many readers as the rants of a bitter misogynist. Presentation is everything and you are doing it the wrong way if you want your opinion to be recognized in a positive light.
> Broader shoulders look more balanced on someone who has wide hips
LOL
Don't you know the meaning of the word "RATIO" ?
What a joke
> Most white girls have butts that expand horizontally not outward.
Yeah, like your intelligence.
IDIOTIC POWER !
Moronic supremacy
Are you crazy or something? Do you have friends family job or do you sit typing snide snarky comments about famous people just because you happen to be a loser. If you are a woman you are bitchy, if you are a man you must be a pedo or sex addict( pics of every women in the porn business)
Giselle wouldn't be a supermodel with millions of men drooling at her feet e.g leo di caprio. The owner of this website is just jealous of her beauty. She may be whatever but she is rich beautiful and a website like this can only make the owner adequate and make them feel even more inferiority complexed.
Back to the Grace v Gisele thing... Look at the tits and hips, Gisele has neither, whereas Grace has well shaped beautiful curves and boobs to be proud of. Like I said months ago, Gisele is a walking surfboard, forget the tanned skin compared to the paleness of Grace, as far as feminine curves and sexiness Grace is 9/10 compared to Gisele at 1/10 (Gisele has an ugly long neck too.)
Forget all this "beauty is in the eye of the beholder) sure, a twisted gay or lesbian will find Gisele's looks arousing, but the fact remains, Grace as a WOMAN is far more sexy, beautiful, arousing, inviting.
Susie: A lot of men would be watching these pageants if the women were typically feminine and attractive. Whereas charisma and brains would be relevant to a personality contest, I don’t believe they should be issues in a beauty pageant except to function as tie breakers if the women obtain the same physical attractiveness scores. I don’t believe that the likes of Snow should be competing in high-profile beauty pageants because of insufficient attractiveness. The purpose of using her was to show how even ordinary-looking women can outcompete a Miss USA in the femininity department.
Bron: I didn’t say that Marketa looks bad. She looks like a girl in her early- to mid-teens, and is better looking than most girls in this age range. Since she doesn’t pose nude, she could be younger than 18, but the website featuring her pictures, glamour.cz, claims that all its models are 18 or older. So Marketa is likely 18 in the pictures, but doesn’t look 18 except for her lower body.
Sarah: I respond to emails, but it takes me a while to do so, often a couple of weeks. I haven’t received any email from you.
Posting pictures of others goes against the TOS of hotornot. If you wanted to prove that the women in the attractive women section are not attractive as far as most are concerned, wait for me to replace about 5-6 women there and then feel free to provide pictures of women whom you consider to be attractive. I will put up their pictures and others can see for themselves just who is better looking. Send me an email and I will contact you when I have improved the attractive women section to my liking.
People like you and 8D are foul because of your use of profanity, lack of manners given that you are a guest at a site not owned by you, not heeding requests to behave (this applies to your earlier behavior) and use of pathetic techniques such as ad hominem, character assassination, misrepresentation, criticism of scientific material when you are clearly incapable of understanding it, etc.
By the way, do you always respond to the emails you get? I sent you an email a while ago yet you haven't responded.
Any person of full European ancestry with good taste would see these women are not attractive, Erik. Just because I don't happen to be of full European descent, it doesn't mean I cannot judge attractiveness in all kinds of people. Your "logic" is such bullshit.
I will guarantee you that if you post up pictures of these ugly women on online rating websites like HOTORNOT, they wouldn't get over a 7. In fact, HOTORNOT is open to the general public and even though many people have taste as bad as yours, they still would see your "attractive women" as less than average.
Would you like me to do that for you? Let's just see what kind of ratings these women will get :)
And how am I and 8D "foul individuals?" Just because we disagree with you? Yea, okay. Again, nice logic. The world doesn't revolve around you and your opinions, sweetie.
I still don't understand your point about marketing lingerie. Marketing and advertisement is something which is thought out to the very extreme, nothing is left to coincidence, so I really don't think the lingerie companies are doing anything wrong (in respect to selling the most) by using the models they are using. If they knew that using more feminine models would make them just a minimally higher amount of profit, that is just what they would be doing.
A woman in an earlier comment thread brought up that women buy lingerie for themselves not men, this is true. Women like cute colours, lace and applications, girly stuff. Most women also have no problem of sexually arousing a man even if they are wearing their white cotton set. Furthermore most women are WELL aware of what their body looks like, are very critical of it and of other women's bodies and know that wearing something modelled by a vs model will not give them the model's body but it's cute and worth spending money for nevertheless. I kind of forgot what point I was trying to make, lol, thinking about nice underwear.
Oh, and have you ever seen the cute bras they have for large cups? Not a lot of options there unfortunately. I totally understand why the models are required to only have B-C cups (also the average in the general population). Beyond D it all seems to be fleshtoned granny bras :( I am often envious that some of the gorgeous whisps of transparency are only for the A cups.
BTW, sorry for commenting on old threads, I'm chronologically going through the archives...
What The Hell...
It's hilarious, but don't spend so much time and thought on trivial bs like this, it's not that anyone actually watches these except for making fun of the contestants. Yes, cosmetic surgery should be banned from beauty pageants, and I don't personally find Miss Conner apealling.
I would appreciate a beauty pageant in which many different body shapes and face types were represented, and I do dislike (well, I don't actually care much) that contestantsare starting to look more and more like the high fashion girls. But I think the line up of contestans should represent very different forms of beauty as also found in the general population and who the winner is is also decided by charisma and brains because the contestans are supposed to be role-models of sorts for young girls and not pieces of meat for men to drool over (oh, haha, that's not how I really think it works, but it should).
So in conclusion I think it would be as wrong to only have the likes of Snow in such competitions, but it could give confidence to girls with bodies like hers if some of the contestants represented a very feminine body type. ( and admittedly I think it would give many men a reason to tune in.)
Forget it Susie, fashion models look trashy just the same, they only look less human ,like corpses, or trannies in addition. It's just your imagination, they are classy in their own eyes, and those of their kind.
Another thing about Pamela Anderson: as seen in the picture you posted larger, she has had her lower ribs removed to allow for a slimmer torso. It looks very unnatural. But I have to say I do understand the appeal she had when she still had her youth going for her.
I also think that many women want to resemble high fashion models because of their youthful looks often reminding women of their own younger days (especially before giving birth). Also a lot of women resent being looked at by men in a pure sexual way, which having a very feminine body with pronounced secondary sex characteristics and a feminine face (sorry, but it does give more of a dumb and "bimbo"-like impression) entails. A lot of especially revealing fashion can only look classy on slim, tall, althletic, small breasted women and looks thrashy and vulgar on extremely feminine women with large breasts, another point of envy. And while large breasts can be pulled of with the right proportions on a tall woman, a short woman most likely will look "fat" with unusually large breasts and is often reduces by men to just these. While this is of course beneficial for women who want to work in the business of being sexually appealing to men, it explains why alot of everyday women would prefer the body of a high fashion model.
Erik, could you explain, please, what is wrong/bad about the looks of Marketa?(a girl in first 2 photos). She is maybe the prettiest young woman on this site, looks young, girlie, feminine, very pristine. Not like little baby, except her poorly developed breasts, but many old women have small ones, too. Her face could be anywhere from early teens to early twenties, some rare individuals retain such young face beyond their thirties, too. Also, her slender built, narrow shoulders and ribcage are enviable.She looks much better than those mummies- fashion models, with massive facial bones and large skeletons.
Danielle: All women in the five pictures in your last comment look adult. To clarify, the first three are in the attractive women section, and the first one is listed on a page that shows somewhat masculinized women, i.e., she is not an example of feminine beauty. The woman on the left in the fourth picture was removed from the attractive women section a long time ago and I told you a while ago that I will be removing the woman on the right, too, from this section. The woman in the fifth picture was also removed from the attractive women section many months ago.
Posting pictures like these does not by any means suggest that the poster is a white supremacist, just as the rest of the site’s content does not imply white supremacism.
Sarah: Whereas you may dislike the faces of the women in the attractive women section, this doesn’t hold true for most people that I am targeting: the general population of European ancestry, to which you and other prominent critics/foul individuals such as 8D and “Aileen” don’t belong. Danielle hasn’t helped by posting pictures of some women either removed or targeted for removal from the attractive women section, and both women in the fourth picture were originally added largely as a result of their physiques, not faces, which wouldn’t be clear in the kind of random posting by Danielle. I am unable to post pictures of the best looking women at present because I am mostly forced to select among nude models, but wait and watch.
It is naïve to believe that Charlize Theron is a star because of her superior attractiveness but the others are not because of their lack of attractiveness. There are many other factors at play such as luck, willingness to deal with the casting couch, connections, or bad career decision as in posing nude in an explicit manner, etc. The casting couch issue would presumably not apply to the woman on the left in the fourth image because she is a porn star. The only plus that Charlize has is her face; her physique was never as feminine as any of the five women’s in Danielle’s last post.
I don’t see anything manly about the woman in the small picture shown at the top right. I just like this picture; the woman in it doesn’t have to be very feminine or very attractive. A close-up of her doesn’t reveal manly looks.
Ok i have read some of the articles on this website... are you trying to say that woman who have high cheekbones, don't have much of a butt and are skinny aren't attractive? Yea thanks alot *sarcasm*. I am 5'9 and weigh 110lbs have a B cup & i don't have much of a butt so am i unattractive?? personally i think we should all just accept our bodies because in my eyes high fashion models and glamour models are attractive, just a different type of attraction if you get what i'm saying? Let me tell you a small story from last year. My mum has always told me that i should be proud of my body because i had what lots of girls didn't, height, skinniness and long legs. I never felt confident and even when she said that i wasn't proud mostly because of this one chick and her mates. So anyway it's PE and some girl in my class goes "you know girls are supposed to have curves" so what? am i not a girl? the maker of this site reminds me of those bitchy girls who constantly bitch about my body. now i don't care, i've grown up alot. i love my body, i'm proud and i should be. curvy girls, skinny girls whatever you are be PROUD
They don't the general public a damn thing
oops. I meant to say that they don't OWE the general public a damn thing.
Der Arschloch, Alexander McQueen is not my enemy. I know that narrow-minded simpletons like yourself have a hard time comprehending that the words of a few people from a minority group cannot be used to reflect the thoughts and opinions of all or even most of the members of that group. I don't know where I have ever described myself as a feminist on this site. Your poor reading comprehension skills must have made you come to that conclusion. I know that you like to post links and quotes from other sources instead of making your own arguments but try arguing for yourself for a change. At least you would be better able to post relevant, useful information . Please stop embarrassing yourself, asshole.
I have not seen any videos or images from McQueen’s "Jack the Ripper" show. The images and videos I have seen from his "Highland Rape" show did not impress me. I believe it was his second collection and I think he has grown since then. He has explained that he was trying to depict the rape of Scotland by the English. He provided a likely excuse but I agree that the Highland Rape show had misogynistic elements. I don't really care. I am not going to lose sleep over an old fashion collection that hardly anyone knows or gives a shit about.
McQueen’s 2001 spring/summer collection is still a great example of the creativity of the fashion world regardless of his past work. He is still one of the most creative fashion designers of today. His work is amazing.
You don't know anything about feminism or fashion so stfu.
Der Arschloch, I don't know how you might have formed the opinion that I am a heterophobic feminist banshee who hates beauty. I know that your reading comprehension is abysmal and you have difficulty understanding arguments so maybe you just made that up in your twisted, little head.
LOL! I don't hate "beauty." I think beauty pageants are dull and a waste of time and money. I don't like beauty pageants and I think the contestants are plastic zombies but I don't need them to be kicked out of competitions or try to "educate the public" about their "masculine" looks. I won't do this because unlike you and Eric I know that the world is a remarkably diverse place. I can easily find people or things that I find beautiful and interesting. I don't have to demonize gay people or feminists in order to make my points unlike some people on this site.
I wasn't bashing the looks of the pageant contestants. I had no idea that you though that the beauty pageant contestants were beauties. I thought you shared Eric's opinion that the contestants were too "masculine" and non-Aryan to compete in beauty pageants. I guess I was wrong.
Let the homos do the designing and let the straights choose the models
I don't know if you live in a world of fantasy because it sure seems like you do, hunny bunny. All the high fashion houses are privately owned businesses that provide luxury goods for the people that can afford them. They all have their own designers, CEOs, manufacturers and workers. They are not providing a public service. They are not given government subsidies or funding. They don't the general public a damn thing. I don't know what gives you the idea that "straights" can and should start picking the models from now on. Exactly which "straights" are you referring to? Are you talking about Straight people already involved in the industry or are you talking about freaks like you and Eric?
You are much more deranged than I could ever be. Now stop your politically incorrect babblings. Take my advice. Start getting in touch with your femininity.
Camille is to Alessandra what etch-a-sketch is to art.
Erik:
No True Scotswoman !
What a genius, this Danielle...
Uh...
Entity.
And how could I achieve that?
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Forget it, I don't want to know.
Overthrowing the Patriarchy, huh?
And in a place like this, no less.
What a tool...
Get some anger management: kick yourself in the cunt until it feels good
You might get in touch with your bitch side
What do you think about Nikky Case's legs? Her calves seem rather insubstantial, even though she is wearing high heels, or do her larger thighs give her legs the "cone on it's tip" look? It makes her look somewhat stumpy. Also, I don't see anything special about her buttocks, actually they appear rather flat or maybe large but a bit sagging were it not for her posing (arched back, butt sticking out). Her upper body is nice as far as I can tell with the lingerie and her face is on the cuter side, but overall I don't think she would fit on a runway, most of all because she looks a foot shorter than the models.
Oh and I've always wondered about that picture you have at the top right-hand corner of the "woman" laying down. HOW THE HELL is that feminine and/or attractive? Is that supposed to be a joke?
"She" looks like a "he" from head to toe.
Although I agree with Erik's take on feminine beauty when it comes to the female body, his taste in faces are absolutely horrible.
How can you consider ANY of those women Danielle listed up above (as well as in your 'attractive women" section) as even a least bit attractive? They are average at best; most of them look like inbreds. I see girls like that everyday and they're so plain looking you'd have to pay me to give them a second glance.
The fourth girl is also butt ugly and looks like a troll.
Be honest, Erik: are you getting paid by these women to post their pictures up and to say they're attractive? I can't think of any other explanation.
How can you think Keeley Hazell and Charlize Theron are attractive and at the same time consider these pathetic women attractive also?
There's a reason why women like Keeley and Charlize are big stars and why those women Danielle posted up above aren't - Keeley and Charlize are actually gorgeous women and they don't look like inbred white trash.
Adriana Lima is gorgeous as well and anyone with normal to good taste can see that.
Your website would have a lot more credibility if you actually stuck by your claim that "feminine beauty is best" and put up pictures of attractive, feminine women and not just women you personally have a liking for. Most people have agreed that your "attractive women" are not attractive at all in terms of general beauty standards. They are only attractive to you.
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