And....if "immature, uncivilized behavior" is the comments I made about your pics, you do realize this is a website that does just that, comments on pictures of women's bodies? If the comments weren't welcome...what can I say? Pretty stupid of you to expect that wouldn't happen, since pictures of womens bodies are constantly judged here, right? You've judged tons of photos of women here, what, where you supposed to be an exception? How so, then? Another marker of immaturity, the inability to take constructive criticism, the thought that one's self is, somehow, always an exception to the rules.
You're a child, Godis. Turning this around on me, instead of explaining your actions, just pointing out mine, and others' actions and percieved faults, is poor logic, poor debating skills, and poor judgement as well. And did you not agree with me about the comment I made pertaining to that show? This is what I'm talking about, STRAWMEN. Your very good at throwing those around, I see.
Once again, a dispay of Maturity! Oh, Godis, lets see, me, post my pic? HELL NO. I don't need to prove anything here. And you can roll your teenage eyes all you want. The topic is called "aesthetics of the eyebrows", so why would I post my picture? It's not relevant. I know what I look like, dear. The more you try to prove your maturity, or disprove mine, the more foolish you sound.
I think for the same reason, Emily is not concerned with posting hers, but I'm only taking an educated guess.
You go into attack mode whenever someone questions your character, or ego. You "warned" Karen, on another thread, to be careful about agreeing with Emily. It's as if you are insane with anger at the thought of anyone that sees her views and doesn't immediately jump on "your" side. Whatever. This is why I question your maturity. You're overly sensitive, can be brought to extreme levels of anger and animosity with little provocation. Mature people don't take things on a website this seriously, don't need to "prove" their femininity by posting their own photos, when they're not even relelvant to the topic. Nor do they need to seek attention, or approval the way you do. As far as "suspecting" jealousy, as you mentioned, PLEASE. No, sorry, but not jealous, not AT ALL.
You really think that I do have to post my pictures? No, you see, therein lies the difference. No reasonably MATURE, ADULT WOMAN would take that silly bait. I'm not your high school friends, Godis. I'm not going to tell you to "go lick yourself" or "grow the fuck up", like you would say, or have said. Weak arguments and strong bias? You must have been referring to yourself.
Most of the "immature, uncivilized behavior" has been yours. And check dates, the post about the show, "More to Love" came before I even saw your photos.
I just read further back, I should have waited in commenting until I did, but this will just have to work. Godis, you called pink skin "pig skin" on the Ekaterina thread. A few times. And if you will always, deep down inside, think I'm Emily than I guess it's safe to say that you're still very, VERY deluded.
Godis, you're one to point out others' obsessions. OK, sure, if it makes YOU feel better to think that Emily has an ugly nose, than think what you will. Hilarious. Only you would take pleasure in thinking that she absolutely MUST have some hideous facial deformity or something.
Why do you really care what her nose looks like? Oh, that's right, you wanted it broken "by a fist" if I remember correctly. That, by the way, is what obsession sounds like.
You know since you two are Nordic and since Nordics ON AVERAGE are the most evolved in terms of physical attractiveness, you should have NO problem proving ANYTHING!
And don't give me any crap about "how a confident girl who knows she is feminine overall *rolls eyes, whatever that means really* doesn't need to post photos to prove anything.
Well, yes you do need to prove something. Your arguments are weak and your bias strong. Please prove to us how attractive on average Nordics are. Oh, and please no identifying features such as faces, fingers, toes, scars, tatoos, etc.
I don't need to see a face anyways. You can pretty much tell how attractive a person by looking at them overall even minus the face. So please ladies, go ahead and prove your point. I proved mine. Anyone on here knows that yes, my body isn't perfect, but I do have an hourglass figure, big boobs, big hips, and good proportions. And when I am really thin, a tiny tiny waist.
So please post how much more attractive you Nordics are than an average Romanian girl, and then I can save them on my computer like a creep and post them to prove further arguments despite you asking me not to. And then when I do I'll respond by claiming it is your fault since you posted photos up of yourself, absolutley ignoring my immaturity and uncivilized behavior.
I hardly believe you are 26! You are commenting about my immaturity? Look at yours! I post photos of myself and you try to make me feel bad about anything you can pick apart.Luckily I could care less about you, I know what you believe to be beautiful and generally I disagree. I know your game. Please. Like it's not obvious why you posted a rant about how obese women have a problem right after I posted my photos of myself and noted I was a bit overweight...
"I wasn't sure where to post this but"...
And you brought that up OVER and OVER again. It rarely had ANYTHING to do with what we were talkin about. Face it. You had a problem with my photos and you handeled it in an immature way. You conceal your immaturity with "niceness" but that makes you even more immature. I don't care. You and Emily have constantly been picking on me because I disagree with you. Get over it.
It's funny how you posted "your measurements" in an attempt to mock me, when really you were attempting to prove how attractive you were. Honestly, post a photo of your perfect face shape and body and then I can tell you. Oh, and why doesn't Emily do the same?
"The rarity of these colors have also added to the mystique and admiration."
Very true of how or why fair colors are captivating to some men. I've heard it said that fair women were far more myserious looking than dark eyed and dark haired women. Mysterious things are things that aren't commonly seen or known to people, and the rarity of fair colors in some parts of the world is the reason this is said.
"dark lustrous eyes and dark, lustrous black hair is a correlate of beauty."
To whom? If that's the only colors that women in a certain community possess, than it will have to do, I guess. If one were given the choice, however, I wonder what colors he would choose then.
I think Karen raised some very good questions. People are attracted to, I think, what is familiar (note the root word family, people have the tendency to be innately attracted to what is comfortable and evokes safety and security, perhaps), what is pleasing to the eye based on their experiences, and what is (aestheticly) symmetrical as well. I would say that facial and body symmetry, as well as coloring, is what people see first, before their minds register any other details. As far as the coloring issue, I agree with Emily, lighter is softer, and more romantic, in my opinion. Some people have said that blue and green eyes are hard, but that's not what regesters with me when I see them. I am more attracted to blue eyes on men, even, because it takes on a whole new impression. Anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about can refer to Paul Newman, for example. Beautiful.
I, too, find that red hair is very soft. It is a common shade found in my family, and I can assure you, my male cousins absolutlely hated having red hair, they said it's only flattering on women. Maybe because it's feminine?
I see Godis got a little heated about being called out. No s**t, Godis, I know you couldn't see the timezone, I was simply informing you on what the time actually was by my clock, when I posted...sigh....nevermind.
Emily, you are more than welcome. I just came back from my vacation, hopped on the computer, and here I am. It will probably take a while to read through everything that is current, from the last 5 days.
Godis, drop it. Your so-called maturity would have prevented you from going insane and paranoid in the first place. Emily's right. I can cite so many examples of your immaturity, as well as the outright lies that you've posted. And by the way, yes I have watched the site here for a while, almost for a month actually, before I posted even once. I don't see how that would make it appear that I am not who I say I am. More of your twisted logic.
As far as my assuming that your athleticism was unfairly assessed, well, I was just going by the pics. Semantics games, again. Sure, Godis, I believe that you have innate athletic ability, and that you excell at sports. I was commenting on the appearance of your physique, and you know that. Athletic physique and athletic talent and two totally different things. I don't really believe that you failed to realize the context I was using. I don't think I'm at the point where I think you're stupid. Your game is to TWIST words, logic, arguments, etc. to suit your arguments.
And yes, Godis, and even Emily could see, I was in fact, trying to start a conversation with you about some of the topics here. I don't care if you didn't feel I was. I know what my intentions were. You are so extremely sensitive, with what appears to be a very childish mentality. I hardly believe your 20. I would've guessed about 14, maybe 15 tops. Goodbye to you Godis ;)
Hmm.. Kate Beckinsale is not an example of what I was talking about. In the first photo she doesn't have the very hard, dark hair colour that I referred to, so she is not a valid example.
Compare her to my photos of Rose McGowan and Marilyn.
As I have said before it is only the very hard blackish-brown colour, the type that practically only absorbs light, that I find masculine and too hard. Kate is not an example of that.
You can't put fake blue-green on the eyes and compare it to Kate's natural eye colour since no one would find a very fake-looking eye colour attractive.
You did a better job with Hayden, I think, and there you see that her softer, natural, eye colour makes her more feminine. Blackish eyes don't look feminine and often look hard.
It is very hard to alter hair- and eye colour using photoshop and similar programs since it often looks fake. Especially Kate's hair and eyes look unnatural.
Marilyn and Rose were better example since the photos are theirs and original. I tried to find photos of Kate with blackish hair colour but it seems she prefers a lighter colour, knowing it looks more feminine, I suppose.
We can never just say that one with lighter pigmentation in regards to eye or skin color is more attractive or even more feminine, until we can do experiments to test this hypothesis out. I'm not a scientist, but I would assume that one would use the scientific method. It would take a while for me to conduct an experiment like this. It would also take extreme precautions, and even after that the study would have flaws. The best I could do was use my cheap program at home to mimick a Photoshop. I altered the hair color and eyes of a few chosen celebrities. The eyes are not shaded, because the program was not sensitive enough to allow me to keep the natural shading of the eyes. The hair is shaded, although slightly desaturated and lightened, so the shading is lightened overall as well. Here are the photos. Compare for yourselves. I would like to note that I selected caucasian women. Judging by Kate Beckinsale's assumed natural hair color and more importantly her skin tone, I can guess she was probably blonde as a child or a light brunette. That is why I decided she was a perfect candidate for hair lightening. I did this to be more objective. It wouldn't make sense to select for example, an Indian woman, and give her blonde hair and blue eyes because her skin tone (which is extremely hard to alter even with Photoshop) would be off and therefore attractiveness would not be as accuratley assessed.
Before photo of Kate Beckinsale with assumed natural hair color(original photo):
PHOTO 1!
After, photo of Kate Beckinsale with altered lighter hair color:
PHOTO 2!
Non-photoshopped photo of Kate Beckinsale with dyed lightened hair:
PHOTO 3!
Notes: In all honesty, I should have posted each photo right next to each other side by side to get the most accurate comparison. But I'm not going to get anal on this little "experiment" as it has extreme flaws already.
Before: Kate Beckinsale with natural hazel/brown eye color(original photo)
PHOTO 1!
After: Kate Beckinsale with altered eye color and original hair color
PHOTO 4!
After: Kate Beckinsale with altered hair and eye color
PHOTO 5!
Notes: Altered hair color is exactly the same in each photo because I only altered it once. I simply altered the eye color after the hair color.
So people, please comment and decide for yourselves. Answer these questions if you would like (for both male/female). I would like to add that women can be attracted to certain features in other women, even though they may not be attracted to the woman in a sexual way. Also, if you would not like to answer a question, just type in N/A.:
1) Are you male or female?
2) Generally, which hair color do the females around you on a daily basis display?
3) Generally, which eye color do the females around you on a daily basis display?
4) Which hair color are you most attracted to in women? Be honest.
5) Which eye color are you most attracted to in women?
6) Which hair color are you least attracted to in women?
7) Which eye color are you least attracted to in women?
8) Which photo of Kate Beckinsale are you most attracted to? PHOTO 1,2,3,4,5?
9) Can you explain why you are most attracted to this photo?
10) Which photo do you percieve to be most feminine? PHOTO 1,2,3,4,5?
11) Is that the photo you are also most attracted to? If not, can you explain why?
12) Do you believe there is a strong correlation between femininity and attractiveness in an individual?
13) Do you believe coloring can be correlated to femininity or attractiveness? If so, which coloring specifically?
14) Do you believe coloring is important to an individual's attractiveness? Femininity?
That's all. If anyone else can think of any more questions, than please add!
Here are similar photos. You can answer the same questions for these too, minus any hair color questions because hair color was not altered in the following:
Hayden Paniettere:
PHOTO 1 (Original)!
PHOTO 2!
PHOTO 3 (Original)!
PHOTO 4!
PHOTO 5!
I've decided to take a very receptive attitude on this website. I'm sure eventually I will argue my points, but for now I'd like to know everyone else's opinions and why they believe they have their opinions. If anyone believes for any reason they may not be 100% objective, please say so. It is common sense that everyone will not be objective. However, please people for the sake of truth, be as objective as possible!
Let's look at it this way. Is it so wrong to find the truth even though it may not appeal to you? If you are "ugly" then why wouldn't you find the best way to make sure your offspring is better off? The best way to know that is to percieve what is universally considered attractive. Let's face it. People are more receptive to attractive people. Attractive people get job interviews easily, they even get jobs more easily. Attractive people have more friends. Etc. This is basically true. I doubt there are very many TRUE attractive people on planet Earth. So please, I don't want to get anyone worked up. This is the truth of life. It is unfair. However, most people are not attractive to the bone. I would say that 95% of the people we percieve to be attractive are pseudo-attractive in at least one way.This can range from eye contacts, to hair dye, to plastic surgery. However, keep in mind that things like better nutrition, dental care, exercise, etc. keep the playing field unleveled as well.
By learning about beauty and figuring out what makes human beings beautiful, we can increase the frequency of beautiful people. Beauty doesn't equal happyness, but it sure can make life more comfortable can't it? Beauty is also connected to health and fertility it seems. I am not sure how high the figures are, but there is a connection regardless.
I think that even if we figured out that certain colors are more feminine and therefore perhaps more attractive, we would also have to figure out to what extent they are more attractive. We would then have to figure out the extent of attractiveness of other features and compare. We would then have to figure out the marginal difference. Ex: How much more attractive is a person if the hair color is lightened by X shades?
Light blondeness will never add masculinity. It can look unnatural, but that's not the same thing.
This is NOT to say that there are no feminine, very dark-haired women. There are, but they are not feminine due to their hard and very dark hair- and eye colours, but in spite of them.
Generally speaking, lighter colours will add softness to the face, which is an important aspect of femininity, I think.
Those who look least feminine are those with lots of dark skin pigment and black hair and eyes to go with it, as my photos of such women showed. Even famous actresses look more masculine due to those unappealing hard colours.
In Hollywwod during the 40's and 50's femininity in women was valued and glorified. They would never have used all those very blonde screen goddesses if they in any way, shape or form were more masculine with that hair colour.
The best way for a man to appear gay is for him to dye his hair extremely blonde. Why is that, if the colour is not feminine? That colour will add femininity to his face. Homosexuals know this.
Blond men are masculine in spite of their very blonde hair, not because of it. There are many such handsome men where I live in Sweden. Most men have slightly darker and stronger pigment than the women, though.
Masculine Swedish man with blond hair;
Another Swede with blond hair;
Marilyn as a brunette;
And as a very light blonde. More masculine? Hardly. The blonde tone makes her more feminine since it removes the hardness of the dark brown colour and adds light. She is more angelic and sweet with the light colour. Hollywood knew this effect and used it often.
Rose McGowan as a dark brunette;
And as a lighter redhead;
The lighter read colour makes her face more feminine since it takes away the hardness of the black hair colour. She can look dramatic with the black colour, bot less feminine because she will look less soft.
You're the one who lies. Look at the many other discussions on here where you've wimpered out. What have I done? I've posted opinions of the japanese on whites prior to western contact. You dismissed it as a "lie"."
Prove that I lie. Don't make accusations based on nothing.
I don't believe in that story. That doesn't make me a liar, it makes your "evidence" weak.
I also think it is totally irrelevant. What does it matter what the Japanese thought once of white people? Today Asians, including the Japanese, love everything that is white and try to physically emulate that race as much as they can. Plastic surgery is booming in Asia and I can tell you that not even ONE of those who underwent it went out looking more Asian.
As for whimping out I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no interest in endless quarrels with people who just resort to personal insults and personal attacks. If you lower the standard in that way you don't deserve a reply.
If someone doesn't think I am right that's OK, by the way. We all have our opinions, and unlike you, I don't start personally insulting someone who don't share my view, I explain why I disagree.
You're the one who lies. Look at the many other discussions on here where you've wimpered out. What have I done? I've posted opinions of the japanese on whites prior to western contact. You dismissed it as a "lie". I posted how men found brunettes and black haired women when they were more of a rarity. You haven't said a thing about it.
"As for spewing bile, anyone who reads your comment can see you are projecting on me your own sins."
Someone who endlessly goes on about the objective beauty of nordic women and everyone else as so "masculine" is the one spewing bile.
"This has nothing to do with "contempt" for people, it has everything to do with femininity and beauty, which this site is about. Try to understand the difference."
You are so full of shit Emily. I'm sick of you. In all of these arguments, you have probably, if not at all, NEVER posted ANY actual psychological, academic etc. evidence to back yourself up. You endlessly argue for the superiority of nordic white women's beauty over everyone else, even your own fellow whites, and just LOVE to trash on non-whites whenever you get the chance, ESPECIALLY asians. You have a blinding desire to prove nordic women with light hair and eyes ALONE are more objectively beautiful than everyone else.
Look at your post prior to mine. You didn't even respond to those massive ones leveled against you.
"You just can't stand that white women of Nordic type are more feminine and beautiful, on average, and that most other women don't compare when you assess and compare femininity."
Your extremities go beyond the simple laws of averages, especially in the case of non-whites, where you think they have to have extreme plastic surgery and white admixture to look good. I'd fully accept the idea of nordic women being at the ideal of female beauty if there was evidence.
It's just that... there isn't. I just see an incredibly spiteful, bigoted, misanthropic little girl trashing on non-nordics the world over.
By the way, so glad you only responded to a couple aspects of my post! That seems to be a common trend for you.
I'm not going to bother much more with you now. Karen seems more interested, and while I don't fully agree with her, she seems to be more able to go another round with your nordic fetishist bile. I'll just comment on a couple more things though:
"Black, as a raw colour, is in UNfeminine, hard and masculine. That colour signals masculinity, and that is why men are generally more pigmented and darker than the women of the SAME ethnicity."
You sure do love to extrapolate basic metaphoric ideals and associations with color, then, go on to juxtapose them on to full scale perceptions of human beauty, don't you?
Watch this:
Black is the color of, well, low lighting conditions. Darkness. Humans don't like darkness. It has alot of connotations with horror, terror, fear etc. Therefore, black hair and skin and eyes are like that, and therefore disgusting colors on women!
White is the color of bone. Bones and skeletons are universally associated with death in human cultures. Therefore, white skin and very light hair are terrible, ugly colors on women.
Humans certainly do have innate color preferences, but it is PROFOUNDLY broad, and making inane generalizations like you do can lead to what I've detailed. By the way, I know men are darker, but the difference between sexes regardless of race is INCREDIBLY MINUTE. I have NEVER noticed this difference in my entire life. I've run into virtually nobody who's noticed this difference themselves. If light skin as a broad neotenic trait is equivalent to an innate beauty standard, just why would humans select for something that's not even percievable to most people?
In regards to the issue of contrasts and the like, I think its largely dependent on lighting conditions, shadowing, etc. Some hair and eye colors look better under certain conditions, others don't. I've seen this pic posted before in response to one of your detractors: http://tinypic.com/r/s5h7ig/3
The woman on the right has such light blonde hair and light skin that her eyebrows almost blend with eachother. Though, this can look far better under certain lighting conditions. Even combinations that would appear more "harmonious" in comparison to this would look worse under certain lighting conditions.
The same holds true for skin color. Black skin can blend in easily with darker settings and appear more shaded, yet light skin can appear, well, sickly and lifeless under high lighting. Consider Nicola Roberts- I don't find her that attractive, but I do like her skin, although under high lighting conditions, well, it looks terrible:
"Half of Spain consists of blonde wome, lol, and almost all men are dark brunettes. It must be because their women want to be more masculine that they bleach their hair!"
Proof?!? Blonde hair is at pretty low frequencies in Spain.
"I personally prefer a slightly less blonde tone, but to say the platinum blonde is a masculine hair colour and compare it to black is ridiculous."
No. It borders on the hair of the elderly. It almost looks fully white. But I don't think it's innately interpreted as so- it's just that such an association might be more apparent to some people.
"I will state again that I think extreme colors are most masculine."
You can state that all you want to. It doesn't make it true. Black/dark brown is a colour linked to masculinity as it involves greater pigmentation of the skin. Men are generally darker than women of the same ethnic group.
Blonde hair is linked instead to femininity, youth and childhood. It involves lesser pigment. Black is always harder and more masculine than blonde, which in itself is not masculine at all, no matter how blonde.
I doubt all those Hollywood goddesses who were really blonde thought they were looking more masculine all of a sudden after their hair bleaching. I doubt their bosses and male admirers thought so either.
I personally prefer a slightly less blonde tone, but to say the platinum blonde is a masculine hair colour and compare it to black is ridiculous.
"Emily, you claim that even Italian painters depicted beautiful women as blonde. Yes. They also depicted the ideal man as having a small penis, but that doesn't mean it is ideal or what every woman desires."
I'm sorry but that is one of the more ridiculous and faulty comparisons I have seen here.
A penis is a sexual organ. As such it is obviously taboo in a way that hair colour is not. Putting large penises on sculptures would distract and turn the focus to it in an improper way. Making it very discreet was the best and socially the only accepted way to portray it in art.
I noted that you chose one of the more sissy sculptures of Michelangelo. There are many more manly sculptures, though.
Hair colour is not associated with a sexual organ. There is no reason whatsoever not to choose the black/dark brown hair colour for an Italian painter. His only true motive for not doing so is the very same one I have seen for myself in Italy..they adore natural blondes in an almost fanatical way. They did it then and they do it now.
Blonde hair is chosen since it is the most feminine and sweet hair colour, and therefore suited to portray femininity and beauty. Painters all over Europe love to use it. By blonde I refer to anything from very light blonde to light brown, where there the light and the sun can naturally play.
''can you take a photo of one of those women and photoshop the eyes, hair, and skin so we could see if she looks better?''
There are many factors that may affect weather a woman looks better with a certain hair/eye colour over another for example certain facial features may make one look average with light hair wheras certain other facial features may make one look more attractive with that same light hair colour so the question is is that particular hair/eye colour objectively beautifull or is it just that certain features make it more tolerable.
Emily did say "vulgar" and "impure" but at the same time you've used mean words to describe characteristics too, so its kind of hypocritical to complain:)
Aw! Erik is so sweet! I asked him to change my big email mistake on one of the posts and he already did! See, he does check this site. I think someone said he hasn't been on here in a while, but obviously he does check and read the site:)
Emily,
I can see how maybe lighter colors would make those women slightly more interesting, and maybe even more attractive. If anyone here has photoshop and is good at it, can you take a photo of one of those women and photoshop the eyes, hair, and skin so we could see if she looks better? I'd do it. It really is an interesting study: Do light colors suggest femininity and to what degree?
I agree lighter colors suggest femininity. But this troubles me because Nordic men often have lighter features. I don't think that makes MEN more feminine. Nordic men rarely look feminine to me, even if they do have light colors. So, this needs to be investigated further. Why women, but not men?
In the end though I disagree that dark colors are really all that masculine. I will state again that I think extreme colors are most masculine. Think about it. In caucasian children many kids are born with platinum blonde hair. As they grow, their hormones causes the color to darken over time. Usually by the time they are full grown, they will have a nice soft caramel or strawberry blonde, or a very light honey brown. This is not as harsh on the eye as a bright blonde. Similarly, dark brown is a more feminine color than black. Black, obviously is a harsh color as well, especially since it brings out every flaw on the face.
In the end it goes to show though that someone who is beautiful and has black hair, is a true beauty. Black hair brings out every flaw, so if you look good with it, and not just because you have the right skin tone, you almost have to be really feminine.
I have to say I don't see a lot of angels depicted with dark hair? Why blonde? Anyone else have any alternative explanations except that it is more youthful?
"What about the greatest romance stories of all time? What about gone with the wind? "
The heroine was indeed a brunette. Her character was also masculine in a way. She was strong, aggressive, wild, unrelenting, headstrong and inventive..traditionally more masculine traits she needed in order to survive.
Her masculine sides made the choice of hair colour for the heroine more logical, so in fact, she helps prove my point. Scarlett is an untraditional and masculine heroine, more geared to women than to men.
Her eyes are very feminine, though. The absolutely gorgeous, cat-like clear green colour adds femininity, and it is far from blackish brown and hard.
The fact remains that the blonde, fair and blue-eyed maiden is what most people think of when they are supposed to describe a romantic heroine, a princess in distress, a feminine girl who needs the help of a man. Men want to feel needed.
The blonde heroine has allowed them to feel needed and wanted as a man. She is soft, sweet, feminine and tender, and she lets him know she is there for him always.
The dark woman is often portrayed as fickle, hard, aggressive, sexual and dangerous. The type of girl a man can have a lot of fun with, but who is not the best one to love, trust and have a family with.
Stereotypes, yes, but maybe based on some elemental things colours evoke in us.
"The latins invented the word and made the idea popular. Latins are dark. Latins are stereotyped as being more passionate. Passion is romantic."
The one who "invented" the word has no monopoly on human emotions.
Romance and passion are two entirely different things that often exist separately. Those words are not synonymous at all.
There is often passion without any kind of romantic feelings involved, on the part of men.
Romantic feelings in men inspire protection and fidelity. Passion alone never does. That is the difference.
Passion in men very often means just being in lust.
Romantic feelings in men is quite another thing, and it will exist independently from feelings of passion and lust.
Passion also has hardness and aggression involved in it. Romanticism and hardness do not go hand in hand. Romanticism inspires love, tenderness, caring and devotion.
Passion is often sudden, explosive, but also fleeting.
Romanticism is lasting and enduring. It is harder to evoke in men but when it is there you will have won his heart, not just his desire.
Softer, sweeter and lighter colours will more easily inspire romantic feelings of protection and devotion. Hard, very dark colours will often inspire only lust and passion.
"I didn't add my name before, but obviously it is Karen. I posted all the photos up above. Please don't hate me because I agree with Emily that blonde hair is more feminine! I am not a blonde BTW! I am a red head:)"
Red hair usually falls in the category of the blondes. Unless it is tinted very dark red, naturally red hair usually has softness and lightness to it, so there really is no difference there.
Redheads usually have very soft colours to go with their hair, creamy white skin and light green eyes, for example, which adds femininity. Readheads are almost never so dark as to become masculine like a very dark brunette. I've never seen that, anyway.
And....if "immature, uncivilized behavior" is the comments I made about your pics, you do realize this is a website that does just that, comments on pictures of women's bodies? If the comments weren't welcome...what can I say? Pretty stupid of you to expect that wouldn't happen, since pictures of womens bodies are constantly judged here, right? You've judged tons of photos of women here, what, where you supposed to be an exception? How so, then? Another marker of immaturity, the inability to take constructive criticism, the thought that one's self is, somehow, always an exception to the rules.
You're a child, Godis. Turning this around on me, instead of explaining your actions, just pointing out mine, and others' actions and percieved faults, is poor logic, poor debating skills, and poor judgement as well. And did you not agree with me about the comment I made pertaining to that show? This is what I'm talking about, STRAWMEN. Your very good at throwing those around, I see.
Once again, a dispay of Maturity! Oh, Godis, lets see, me, post my pic? HELL NO. I don't need to prove anything here. And you can roll your teenage eyes all you want. The topic is called "aesthetics of the eyebrows", so why would I post my picture? It's not relevant. I know what I look like, dear. The more you try to prove your maturity, or disprove mine, the more foolish you sound.
I think for the same reason, Emily is not concerned with posting hers, but I'm only taking an educated guess.
You go into attack mode whenever someone questions your character, or ego. You "warned" Karen, on another thread, to be careful about agreeing with Emily. It's as if you are insane with anger at the thought of anyone that sees her views and doesn't immediately jump on "your" side. Whatever. This is why I question your maturity. You're overly sensitive, can be brought to extreme levels of anger and animosity with little provocation. Mature people don't take things on a website this seriously, don't need to "prove" their femininity by posting their own photos, when they're not even relelvant to the topic. Nor do they need to seek attention, or approval the way you do. As far as "suspecting" jealousy, as you mentioned, PLEASE. No, sorry, but not jealous, not AT ALL.
You really think that I do have to post my pictures? No, you see, therein lies the difference. No reasonably MATURE, ADULT WOMAN would take that silly bait. I'm not your high school friends, Godis. I'm not going to tell you to "go lick yourself" or "grow the fuck up", like you would say, or have said. Weak arguments and strong bias? You must have been referring to yourself.
Most of the "immature, uncivilized behavior" has been yours. And check dates, the post about the show, "More to Love" came before I even saw your photos.
I just read further back, I should have waited in commenting until I did, but this will just have to work. Godis, you called pink skin "pig skin" on the Ekaterina thread. A few times. And if you will always, deep down inside, think I'm Emily than I guess it's safe to say that you're still very, VERY deluded.
Godis, you're one to point out others' obsessions. OK, sure, if it makes YOU feel better to think that Emily has an ugly nose, than think what you will. Hilarious. Only you would take pleasure in thinking that she absolutely MUST have some hideous facial deformity or something.
Why do you really care what her nose looks like? Oh, that's right, you wanted it broken "by a fist" if I remember correctly. That, by the way, is what obsession sounds like.
Someone said Catherine Deneuve, why didn't I think of her?
Beautiful.
You know since you two are Nordic and since Nordics ON AVERAGE are the most evolved in terms of physical attractiveness, you should have NO problem proving ANYTHING!
And don't give me any crap about "how a confident girl who knows she is feminine overall *rolls eyes, whatever that means really* doesn't need to post photos to prove anything.
Well, yes you do need to prove something. Your arguments are weak and your bias strong. Please prove to us how attractive on average Nordics are. Oh, and please no identifying features such as faces, fingers, toes, scars, tatoos, etc.
I don't need to see a face anyways. You can pretty much tell how attractive a person by looking at them overall even minus the face. So please ladies, go ahead and prove your point. I proved mine. Anyone on here knows that yes, my body isn't perfect, but I do have an hourglass figure, big boobs, big hips, and good proportions. And when I am really thin, a tiny tiny waist.
So please post how much more attractive you Nordics are than an average Romanian girl, and then I can save them on my computer like a creep and post them to prove further arguments despite you asking me not to. And then when I do I'll respond by claiming it is your fault since you posted photos up of yourself, absolutley ignoring my immaturity and uncivilized behavior.
Barberella,
I hardly believe you are 26! You are commenting about my immaturity? Look at yours! I post photos of myself and you try to make me feel bad about anything you can pick apart.Luckily I could care less about you, I know what you believe to be beautiful and generally I disagree. I know your game. Please. Like it's not obvious why you posted a rant about how obese women have a problem right after I posted my photos of myself and noted I was a bit overweight...
"I wasn't sure where to post this but"...
And you brought that up OVER and OVER again. It rarely had ANYTHING to do with what we were talkin about. Face it. You had a problem with my photos and you handeled it in an immature way. You conceal your immaturity with "niceness" but that makes you even more immature. I don't care. You and Emily have constantly been picking on me because I disagree with you. Get over it.
It's funny how you posted "your measurements" in an attempt to mock me, when really you were attempting to prove how attractive you were. Honestly, post a photo of your perfect face shape and body and then I can tell you. Oh, and why doesn't Emily do the same?
"The rarity of these colors have also added to the mystique and admiration."
Very true of how or why fair colors are captivating to some men. I've heard it said that fair women were far more myserious looking than dark eyed and dark haired women. Mysterious things are things that aren't commonly seen or known to people, and the rarity of fair colors in some parts of the world is the reason this is said.
"dark lustrous eyes and dark, lustrous black hair is a correlate of beauty."
To whom? If that's the only colors that women in a certain community possess, than it will have to do, I guess. If one were given the choice, however, I wonder what colors he would choose then.
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I think Karen raised some very good questions. People are attracted to, I think, what is familiar (note the root word family, people have the tendency to be innately attracted to what is comfortable and evokes safety and security, perhaps), what is pleasing to the eye based on their experiences, and what is (aestheticly) symmetrical as well. I would say that facial and body symmetry, as well as coloring, is what people see first, before their minds register any other details. As far as the coloring issue, I agree with Emily, lighter is softer, and more romantic, in my opinion. Some people have said that blue and green eyes are hard, but that's not what regesters with me when I see them. I am more attracted to blue eyes on men, even, because it takes on a whole new impression. Anyone who doesn't know what I'm talking about can refer to Paul Newman, for example. Beautiful.
I, too, find that red hair is very soft. It is a common shade found in my family, and I can assure you, my male cousins absolutlely hated having red hair, they said it's only flattering on women. Maybe because it's feminine?
I see Godis got a little heated about being called out. No s**t, Godis, I know you couldn't see the timezone, I was simply informing you on what the time actually was by my clock, when I posted...sigh....nevermind.
Emily, you are more than welcome. I just came back from my vacation, hopped on the computer, and here I am. It will probably take a while to read through everything that is current, from the last 5 days.
Godis, drop it. Your so-called maturity would have prevented you from going insane and paranoid in the first place. Emily's right. I can cite so many examples of your immaturity, as well as the outright lies that you've posted. And by the way, yes I have watched the site here for a while, almost for a month actually, before I posted even once. I don't see how that would make it appear that I am not who I say I am. More of your twisted logic.
As far as my assuming that your athleticism was unfairly assessed, well, I was just going by the pics. Semantics games, again. Sure, Godis, I believe that you have innate athletic ability, and that you excell at sports. I was commenting on the appearance of your physique, and you know that. Athletic physique and athletic talent and two totally different things. I don't really believe that you failed to realize the context I was using. I don't think I'm at the point where I think you're stupid. Your game is to TWIST words, logic, arguments, etc. to suit your arguments.
And yes, Godis, and even Emily could see, I was in fact, trying to start a conversation with you about some of the topics here. I don't care if you didn't feel I was. I know what my intentions were. You are so extremely sensitive, with what appears to be a very childish mentality. I hardly believe your 20. I would've guessed about 14, maybe 15 tops. Goodbye to you Godis ;)
Hmm.. Kate Beckinsale is not an example of what I was talking about. In the first photo she doesn't have the very hard, dark hair colour that I referred to, so she is not a valid example.
Compare her to my photos of Rose McGowan and Marilyn.
As I have said before it is only the very hard blackish-brown colour, the type that practically only absorbs light, that I find masculine and too hard. Kate is not an example of that.
You can't put fake blue-green on the eyes and compare it to Kate's natural eye colour since no one would find a very fake-looking eye colour attractive.
You did a better job with Hayden, I think, and there you see that her softer, natural, eye colour makes her more feminine. Blackish eyes don't look feminine and often look hard.
It is very hard to alter hair- and eye colour using photoshop and similar programs since it often looks fake. Especially Kate's hair and eyes look unnatural.
Marilyn and Rose were better example since the photos are theirs and original. I tried to find photos of Kate with blackish hair colour but it seems she prefers a lighter colour, knowing it looks more feminine, I suppose.
We can never just say that one with lighter pigmentation in regards to eye or skin color is more attractive or even more feminine, until we can do experiments to test this hypothesis out. I'm not a scientist, but I would assume that one would use the scientific method. It would take a while for me to conduct an experiment like this. It would also take extreme precautions, and even after that the study would have flaws. The best I could do was use my cheap program at home to mimick a Photoshop. I altered the hair color and eyes of a few chosen celebrities. The eyes are not shaded, because the program was not sensitive enough to allow me to keep the natural shading of the eyes. The hair is shaded, although slightly desaturated and lightened, so the shading is lightened overall as well. Here are the photos. Compare for yourselves. I would like to note that I selected caucasian women. Judging by Kate Beckinsale's assumed natural hair color and more importantly her skin tone, I can guess she was probably blonde as a child or a light brunette. That is why I decided she was a perfect candidate for hair lightening. I did this to be more objective. It wouldn't make sense to select for example, an Indian woman, and give her blonde hair and blue eyes because her skin tone (which is extremely hard to alter even with Photoshop) would be off and therefore attractiveness would not be as accuratley assessed.
Before photo of Kate Beckinsale with assumed natural hair color(original photo):
PHOTO 1!
After, photo of Kate Beckinsale with altered lighter hair color:
PHOTO 2!
Non-photoshopped photo of Kate Beckinsale with dyed lightened hair:
PHOTO 3!
Notes: In all honesty, I should have posted each photo right next to each other side by side to get the most accurate comparison. But I'm not going to get anal on this little "experiment" as it has extreme flaws already.
Before: Kate Beckinsale with natural hazel/brown eye color(original photo)
PHOTO 1!
After: Kate Beckinsale with altered eye color and original hair color
PHOTO 4!
After: Kate Beckinsale with altered hair and eye color
PHOTO 5!
Notes: Altered hair color is exactly the same in each photo because I only altered it once. I simply altered the eye color after the hair color.
So people, please comment and decide for yourselves. Answer these questions if you would like (for both male/female). I would like to add that women can be attracted to certain features in other women, even though they may not be attracted to the woman in a sexual way. Also, if you would not like to answer a question, just type in N/A.:
1) Are you male or female?
2) Generally, which hair color do the females around you on a daily basis display?
3) Generally, which eye color do the females around you on a daily basis display?
4) Which hair color are you most attracted to in women? Be honest.
5) Which eye color are you most attracted to in women?
6) Which hair color are you least attracted to in women?
7) Which eye color are you least attracted to in women?
8) Which photo of Kate Beckinsale are you most attracted to? PHOTO 1,2,3,4,5?
9) Can you explain why you are most attracted to this photo?
10) Which photo do you percieve to be most feminine? PHOTO 1,2,3,4,5?
11) Is that the photo you are also most attracted to? If not, can you explain why?
12) Do you believe there is a strong correlation between femininity and attractiveness in an individual?
13) Do you believe coloring can be correlated to femininity or attractiveness? If so, which coloring specifically?
14) Do you believe coloring is important to an individual's attractiveness? Femininity?
That's all. If anyone else can think of any more questions, than please add!
Here are similar photos. You can answer the same questions for these too, minus any hair color questions because hair color was not altered in the following:
Hayden Paniettere:
PHOTO 1 (Original)!
PHOTO 2!
PHOTO 3 (Original)!
PHOTO 4!
PHOTO 5!
I've decided to take a very receptive attitude on this website. I'm sure eventually I will argue my points, but for now I'd like to know everyone else's opinions and why they believe they have their opinions. If anyone believes for any reason they may not be 100% objective, please say so. It is common sense that everyone will not be objective. However, please people for the sake of truth, be as objective as possible!
Let's look at it this way. Is it so wrong to find the truth even though it may not appeal to you? If you are "ugly" then why wouldn't you find the best way to make sure your offspring is better off? The best way to know that is to percieve what is universally considered attractive. Let's face it. People are more receptive to attractive people. Attractive people get job interviews easily, they even get jobs more easily. Attractive people have more friends. Etc. This is basically true. I doubt there are very many TRUE attractive people on planet Earth. So please, I don't want to get anyone worked up. This is the truth of life. It is unfair. However, most people are not attractive to the bone. I would say that 95% of the people we percieve to be attractive are pseudo-attractive in at least one way.This can range from eye contacts, to hair dye, to plastic surgery. However, keep in mind that things like better nutrition, dental care, exercise, etc. keep the playing field unleveled as well.
By learning about beauty and figuring out what makes human beings beautiful, we can increase the frequency of beautiful people. Beauty doesn't equal happyness, but it sure can make life more comfortable can't it? Beauty is also connected to health and fertility it seems. I am not sure how high the figures are, but there is a connection regardless.
I think that even if we figured out that certain colors are more feminine and therefore perhaps more attractive, we would also have to figure out to what extent they are more attractive. We would then have to figure out the extent of attractiveness of other features and compare. We would then have to figure out the marginal difference. Ex: How much more attractive is a person if the hair color is lightened by X shades?
Light blondeness will never add masculinity. It can look unnatural, but that's not the same thing.
This is NOT to say that there are no feminine, very dark-haired women. There are, but they are not feminine due to their hard and very dark hair- and eye colours, but in spite of them.
Generally speaking, lighter colours will add softness to the face, which is an important aspect of femininity, I think.
Those who look least feminine are those with lots of dark skin pigment and black hair and eyes to go with it, as my photos of such women showed. Even famous actresses look more masculine due to those unappealing hard colours.
In Hollywwod during the 40's and 50's femininity in women was valued and glorified. They would never have used all those very blonde screen goddesses if they in any way, shape or form were more masculine with that hair colour.
The best way for a man to appear gay is for him to dye his hair extremely blonde. Why is that, if the colour is not feminine? That colour will add femininity to his face. Homosexuals know this.
Blond men are masculine in spite of their very blonde hair, not because of it. There are many such handsome men where I live in Sweden. Most men have slightly darker and stronger pigment than the women, though.
Masculine Swedish man with blond hair;
Another Swede with blond hair;
Marilyn as a brunette;
And as a very light blonde. More masculine? Hardly. The blonde tone makes her more feminine since it removes the hardness of the dark brown colour and adds light. She is more angelic and sweet with the light colour. Hollywood knew this effect and used it often.
Rose McGowan as a dark brunette;
And as a lighter redhead;
The lighter read colour makes her face more feminine since it takes away the hardness of the black hair colour. She can look dramatic with the black colour, bot less feminine because she will look less soft.
""No, you have not. Why do you lie?"
You're the one who lies. Look at the many other discussions on here where you've wimpered out. What have I done? I've posted opinions of the japanese on whites prior to western contact. You dismissed it as a "lie"."
Prove that I lie. Don't make accusations based on nothing.
I don't believe in that story. That doesn't make me a liar, it makes your "evidence" weak.
I also think it is totally irrelevant. What does it matter what the Japanese thought once of white people? Today Asians, including the Japanese, love everything that is white and try to physically emulate that race as much as they can. Plastic surgery is booming in Asia and I can tell you that not even ONE of those who underwent it went out looking more Asian.
As for whimping out I have no idea what you are talking about. I have no interest in endless quarrels with people who just resort to personal insults and personal attacks. If you lower the standard in that way you don't deserve a reply.
If someone doesn't think I am right that's OK, by the way. We all have our opinions, and unlike you, I don't start personally insulting someone who don't share my view, I explain why I disagree.
"No, you have not. Why do you lie?"
You're the one who lies. Look at the many other discussions on here where you've wimpered out. What have I done? I've posted opinions of the japanese on whites prior to western contact. You dismissed it as a "lie". I posted how men found brunettes and black haired women when they were more of a rarity. You haven't said a thing about it.
"As for spewing bile, anyone who reads your comment can see you are projecting on me your own sins."
Someone who endlessly goes on about the objective beauty of nordic women and everyone else as so "masculine" is the one spewing bile.
"This has nothing to do with "contempt" for people, it has everything to do with femininity and beauty, which this site is about. Try to understand the difference."
You are so full of shit Emily. I'm sick of you. In all of these arguments, you have probably, if not at all, NEVER posted ANY actual psychological, academic etc. evidence to back yourself up. You endlessly argue for the superiority of nordic white women's beauty over everyone else, even your own fellow whites, and just LOVE to trash on non-whites whenever you get the chance, ESPECIALLY asians. You have a blinding desire to prove nordic women with light hair and eyes ALONE are more objectively beautiful than everyone else.
Want another example of how you can't really debate? Here: http://www.femininebeauty.info/objective-comparisons-in-beauty-pageants?page=1
Look at your post prior to mine. You didn't even respond to those massive ones leveled against you.
"You just can't stand that white women of Nordic type are more feminine and beautiful, on average, and that most other women don't compare when you assess and compare femininity."
Your extremities go beyond the simple laws of averages, especially in the case of non-whites, where you think they have to have extreme plastic surgery and white admixture to look good. I'd fully accept the idea of nordic women being at the ideal of female beauty if there was evidence.
It's just that... there isn't. I just see an incredibly spiteful, bigoted, misanthropic little girl trashing on non-nordics the world over.
By the way, so glad you only responded to a couple aspects of my post! That seems to be a common trend for you.
I'm not going to bother much more with you now. Karen seems more interested, and while I don't fully agree with her, she seems to be more able to go another round with your nordic fetishist bile. I'll just comment on a couple more things though:
"Black, as a raw colour, is in UNfeminine, hard and masculine. That colour signals masculinity, and that is why men are generally more pigmented and darker than the women of the SAME ethnicity."
You sure do love to extrapolate basic metaphoric ideals and associations with color, then, go on to juxtapose them on to full scale perceptions of human beauty, don't you?
Watch this:
Black is the color of, well, low lighting conditions. Darkness. Humans don't like darkness. It has alot of connotations with horror, terror, fear etc. Therefore, black hair and skin and eyes are like that, and therefore disgusting colors on women!
White is the color of bone. Bones and skeletons are universally associated with death in human cultures. Therefore, white skin and very light hair are terrible, ugly colors on women.
Humans certainly do have innate color preferences, but it is PROFOUNDLY broad, and making inane generalizations like you do can lead to what I've detailed. By the way, I know men are darker, but the difference between sexes regardless of race is INCREDIBLY MINUTE. I have NEVER noticed this difference in my entire life. I've run into virtually nobody who's noticed this difference themselves. If light skin as a broad neotenic trait is equivalent to an innate beauty standard, just why would humans select for something that's not even percievable to most people?
In regards to the issue of contrasts and the like, I think its largely dependent on lighting conditions, shadowing, etc. Some hair and eye colors look better under certain conditions, others don't. I've seen this pic posted before in response to one of your detractors: http://tinypic.com/r/s5h7ig/3
The woman on the right has such light blonde hair and light skin that her eyebrows almost blend with eachother. Though, this can look far better under certain lighting conditions. Even combinations that would appear more "harmonious" in comparison to this would look worse under certain lighting conditions.
The same holds true for skin color. Black skin can blend in easily with darker settings and appear more shaded, yet light skin can appear, well, sickly and lifeless under high lighting. Consider Nicola Roberts- I don't find her that attractive, but I do like her skin, although under high lighting conditions, well, it looks terrible:
http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2008/08/03/article-0-02270ECB00000578-336_468x631.jpg
"Half of Spain consists of blonde wome, lol, and almost all men are dark brunettes. It must be because their women want to be more masculine that they bleach their hair!"
Proof?!? Blonde hair is at pretty low frequencies in Spain.
"I personally prefer a slightly less blonde tone, but to say the platinum blonde is a masculine hair colour and compare it to black is ridiculous."
No. It borders on the hair of the elderly. It almost looks fully white. But I don't think it's innately interpreted as so- it's just that such an association might be more apparent to some people.
Karen;
"I will state again that I think extreme colors are most masculine."
You can state that all you want to. It doesn't make it true. Black/dark brown is a colour linked to masculinity as it involves greater pigmentation of the skin. Men are generally darker than women of the same ethnic group.
Blonde hair is linked instead to femininity, youth and childhood. It involves lesser pigment. Black is always harder and more masculine than blonde, which in itself is not masculine at all, no matter how blonde.
I doubt all those Hollywood goddesses who were really blonde thought they were looking more masculine all of a sudden after their hair bleaching. I doubt their bosses and male admirers thought so either.
I personally prefer a slightly less blonde tone, but to say the platinum blonde is a masculine hair colour and compare it to black is ridiculous.
Karen;
"Emily, you claim that even Italian painters depicted beautiful women as blonde. Yes. They also depicted the ideal man as having a small penis, but that doesn't mean it is ideal or what every woman desires."
I'm sorry but that is one of the more ridiculous and faulty comparisons I have seen here.
A penis is a sexual organ. As such it is obviously taboo in a way that hair colour is not. Putting large penises on sculptures would distract and turn the focus to it in an improper way. Making it very discreet was the best and socially the only accepted way to portray it in art.
I noted that you chose one of the more sissy sculptures of Michelangelo. There are many more manly sculptures, though.
Hair colour is not associated with a sexual organ. There is no reason whatsoever not to choose the black/dark brown hair colour for an Italian painter. His only true motive for not doing so is the very same one I have seen for myself in Italy..they adore natural blondes in an almost fanatical way. They did it then and they do it now.
Blonde hair is chosen since it is the most feminine and sweet hair colour, and therefore suited to portray femininity and beauty. Painters all over Europe love to use it. By blonde I refer to anything from very light blonde to light brown, where there the light and the sun can naturally play.
link | Submitted by Emily on Fri, 08/14/2009 - 08:39.
''The dark woman is often portrayed as fickle, hard, aggressive, sexual and dangerous.''
What more could a man want than a dangerous woman? A vapid weak haired weak looking blonde? Wake up live in the real world.
beauty site 08/14/2009 - 09:09
by Karen link
Godis,
''can you take a photo of one of those women and photoshop the eyes, hair, and skin so we could see if she looks better?''
There are many factors that may affect weather a woman looks better with a certain hair/eye colour over another for example certain facial features may make one look average with light hair wheras certain other facial features may make one look more attractive with that same light hair colour so the question is is that particular hair/eye colour objectively beautifull or is it just that certain features make it more tolerable.
Godis,
Emily did say "vulgar" and "impure" but at the same time you've used mean words to describe characteristics too, so its kind of hypocritical to complain:)
Aw! Erik is so sweet! I asked him to change my big email mistake on one of the posts and he already did! See, he does check this site. I think someone said he hasn't been on here in a while, but obviously he does check and read the site:)
Emily,
I can see how maybe lighter colors would make those women slightly more interesting, and maybe even more attractive. If anyone here has photoshop and is good at it, can you take a photo of one of those women and photoshop the eyes, hair, and skin so we could see if she looks better? I'd do it. It really is an interesting study: Do light colors suggest femininity and to what degree?
I agree lighter colors suggest femininity. But this troubles me because Nordic men often have lighter features. I don't think that makes MEN more feminine. Nordic men rarely look feminine to me, even if they do have light colors. So, this needs to be investigated further. Why women, but not men?
In the end though I disagree that dark colors are really all that masculine. I will state again that I think extreme colors are most masculine. Think about it. In caucasian children many kids are born with platinum blonde hair. As they grow, their hormones causes the color to darken over time. Usually by the time they are full grown, they will have a nice soft caramel or strawberry blonde, or a very light honey brown. This is not as harsh on the eye as a bright blonde. Similarly, dark brown is a more feminine color than black. Black, obviously is a harsh color as well, especially since it brings out every flaw on the face.
In the end it goes to show though that someone who is beautiful and has black hair, is a true beauty. Black hair brings out every flaw, so if you look good with it, and not just because you have the right skin tone, you almost have to be really feminine.
I have to say I don't see a lot of angels depicted with dark hair? Why blonde? Anyone else have any alternative explanations except that it is more youthful?
"What about the greatest romance stories of all time? What about gone with the wind? "
The heroine was indeed a brunette. Her character was also masculine in a way. She was strong, aggressive, wild, unrelenting, headstrong and inventive..traditionally more masculine traits she needed in order to survive.
Her masculine sides made the choice of hair colour for the heroine more logical, so in fact, she helps prove my point. Scarlett is an untraditional and masculine heroine, more geared to women than to men.
Her eyes are very feminine, though. The absolutely gorgeous, cat-like clear green colour adds femininity, and it is far from blackish brown and hard.
The fact remains that the blonde, fair and blue-eyed maiden is what most people think of when they are supposed to describe a romantic heroine, a princess in distress, a feminine girl who needs the help of a man. Men want to feel needed.
The blonde heroine has allowed them to feel needed and wanted as a man. She is soft, sweet, feminine and tender, and she lets him know she is there for him always.
The dark woman is often portrayed as fickle, hard, aggressive, sexual and dangerous. The type of girl a man can have a lot of fun with, but who is not the best one to love, trust and have a family with.
Stereotypes, yes, but maybe based on some elemental things colours evoke in us.
"The latins invented the word and made the idea popular. Latins are dark. Latins are stereotyped as being more passionate. Passion is romantic."
The one who "invented" the word has no monopoly on human emotions.
Romance and passion are two entirely different things that often exist separately. Those words are not synonymous at all.
There is often passion without any kind of romantic feelings involved, on the part of men.
Romantic feelings in men inspire protection and fidelity. Passion alone never does. That is the difference.
Passion in men very often means just being in lust.
Romantic feelings in men is quite another thing, and it will exist independently from feelings of passion and lust.
Passion also has hardness and aggression involved in it. Romanticism and hardness do not go hand in hand. Romanticism inspires love, tenderness, caring and devotion.
Passion is often sudden, explosive, but also fleeting.
Romanticism is lasting and enduring. It is harder to evoke in men but when it is there you will have won his heart, not just his desire.
Softer, sweeter and lighter colours will more easily inspire romantic feelings of protection and devotion. Hard, very dark colours will often inspire only lust and passion.
"I didn't add my name before, but obviously it is Karen. I posted all the photos up above. Please don't hate me because I agree with Emily that blonde hair is more feminine! I am not a blonde BTW! I am a red head:)"
Red hair usually falls in the category of the blondes. Unless it is tinted very dark red, naturally red hair usually has softness and lightness to it, so there really is no difference there.
Redheads usually have very soft colours to go with their hair, creamy white skin and light green eyes, for example, which adds femininity. Readheads are almost never so dark as to become masculine like a very dark brunette. I've never seen that, anyway.
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