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Tue, 05/19/2009 - 21:14 Evalyn Story Waist-to-hip ratio and attractiveness in women: addressing confounds

My height is 5'6"

& I have a waist measurement of 24inches, & my hips are 33inches, & my bust is 32inches
& I have a .73 WHR, but I don't really understand what shape this makes my body.
Pear maybe??
Since my hips are bigger.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 18:44 jonas Nonheterosexual vs. heterosexual male preference for petite women: Alessandra Ambrosio vs. Camille

Your site is a real find, it gladens me to see someone make an effort at putting a light on the nature of todays feminine ideal bodies (which is obiously problematic, in regards to anoriexa etc, all western diseases). I however do not think that homosexual men in the fashion industry is the cause of androgynous/ masculine ideals.
Photos of females that sell well to other females usually communicate other psychological qualities than how femininity has been portraid before the womens movement grew strong. Fashion pictures today show of tall imposing women excuding self confidence, coolness and a somewhat aggressive pose towards the viewer, far from the coy shy woman who looks to the man in classical paintings for instance. It could be that women today themselves are drawn away from the hyperfeminine in that they long for a bigger life, more then the traditional life of a caring for family and home.Freedom in identifying with the androgynous.

I believe there are findings on females being more depressed when the bodily femininization appears during puberty then when boys are masculinised for instance.

Come to think of it slightly masculine female faces in themselves has appeared in western culture many times and has been seen as beutiful, Virginia woolf was considered very beutiful by many, Art around early 1900s, like August Klimt for instance featured masculine qualities in paintings of female faces.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 18:18 just noting Tara Conner (Miss USA 2006) vs. the average North American white female

Guys, you have to bear in mind that acting, modeling, and beauty pageants are extremely competitive. High-estrogen types are usually sweet ladies that make good mothers, but no one climbs to the top of any heap without a certain amount of balls.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 17:12 Voice of Reason Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

Emily,

I have a healthy self esteem and enough confidence in my looks and intellect so no I don't have to seek affirmation from any racist to make myself feel better. I don't come to this site to make myself feel better, I have an interest in beauty because I have worked in the beauty industry.

I don't hate. I think hate is a destructive emotion. I certainly don't hate someone because I don't find them physically appealing. That is absurd

Are you joking? Check all your previous hateful comments before you contradict yourself. Also it's not just me that thinks you are a hateful person, every time you come up with a banal comment, there are 10 comments from different posters condemning you. Does that not make you wonder if you are in the wrong? Perhaps not, if you are seriously deluded.

Your statement that whites are more beautiful is just an opinion or a preference and not a fact that has been substantiated by science. Regarding preference, there is a huge population of white guys who strictly date Asian, Latin or black girls so your statement is obviously not true for them.

Humans are programmed to choose mates who will provide different genetic material to their own because this promotes healthier humans as in stronger immune system and lesser frequency of genetic disease. There is more likelihood of inbreeding if you choose someone from your own race and this may result in diseases, also there is something called Westermarck effect that causes people to look for mates who are very different from their own race.

Newsweek did a story on how interracials tend to have perfect features, now would you trust a world renowned publication like Newsweek or some anonymous racist spouting rubbish?

There's scientific evidence that proves humans are meant to mix and integrate because of the benefit in terms of health and looks but I doubt you have got credible evidence backing up your ridiculous statements.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 17:07 Matt Tara Conner (Miss USA 2006) vs. the average North American white female

Fifi wrote: "Tara Conner is a beautiful woman, if she wasn't she wouldn't have won Miss USA 2006. She is one of the most beautiful women on the planet. She looks unfeminine, I think not. Ask the men that ogle over her!"

Mm. Is that why she got breast implants? Or did she get them because she in fact looked unfeminine? Erik's right: she's certainly attractive, but not particularly feminine.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 16:29 Hannah Rhinoplasty in Stockholm, Sweden: comments on the fine, straight and chiseled Nordic nose

While I think Asian women are incredibly hot, whites ARE going extinct. Read this article, hon....

http://poetwarrior.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/white-people-dying-out-world-sighs-in-relief/

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 16:02 Peter Maria McBane

Voice of Reason,
Thank you for your nice words...although i wouldnt go as far as saying my jaws are "practically non existant"!

just noting
thanks!
I tried to include "my kind" of humor in my posts...im glad you noticed it :)

Emily,
Thank you for apologising.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 13:41 Emily Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

"Being proud of your race is one thing but to have all this hate and contempt, you have some really serious psychological issues."

I think it is truly sad when you have to falsely label something "hate and contempt" just to feel better about yourself. Somehow it is unbearable for you to think that people might actually view looks in an analytical and rational way and find it not to their liking.

I don't hate. I think hate is a destructive emotion. I certainly don't hate someone because I don't find them physically appealing. That is absurd. You see, this site deals with beauty, and here you can discuss what you find appealing and feminine, and not appealing, and should be able to discuss it without being called names. Too many who apparently themselves fall far short of what some feel is good looks seem to take my words deeply personally. In that case this site is not for you, obviously.

The truth is that many people do think whites are more beautiful, on average, and that race mixing is not the best thing since sliced bread, without having feelings of hate.

That would make it so convenient for you, wouldn't it? To put critisism down to hatred and feelings of superiority. As if one cannot see objectively and rationally and say "Hey, this isn't working, this isn't attractive to me and here is why and this is what I think looks better".

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 12:56 Emily Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

"You're almost alone in finding dark eyes ugly."

I don't find dark eyes ugly (I assume you mean dark as in dark brown). Sometimes very dark brown eyes, approaching black, can look hard. I don't find hard eyes attractive, and the colour brownish-black IS hard when it comes to eyes.

I find shades of blue, greyish-blue, green without brown in it, and blue-green (sea green) to be the most beautiful colours. Not only because these colurs themselves are outstandingly beautiful and bring to mind the sky and the sea, but because they are softer and more gentle, making the eyes look more gentle, romantic and sweet.

There are many beautiful women who have different shades of brown eyes, so I'm not saying that the dark brown colour somehow excludes you from looking good. Women would look dramatic, sexy and temperamental, but sometimes less romantic - unless they have other, softer qualities in their face to go with it.

This is especially so in women. Men, who naturally look harder and more masculine, often look good with brown eyes, too. The important thing is that the white area around the iris is clear and white, I think.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 12:29 Emily Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

"People with parents from the same ethnic group often look a little inbred."

No, they don't. :)

I could use photos from Iceland, for example. People there are some of the most beautiful on Earth, well-known for their good looks.

Now, let's see..Iceland must have lots of people, then, right?

Oops, there are 320.000 inhabitants on Iceland! I guess your theory doesn't hold water. ;)

Beauty and race mixing are not siamese twins, regardless of what they want you to believe. Oftentimes you are better off sticking to your own kind if you want a beautiful baby. If you are white, that is.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 12:22 inko.gnito Ulya I. from Met Art

one of the hottest girls on the web!

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 12:10 Emily Maria McBane

It's remarkable that when I lose my temper just once people will jump on it instantly. When severely provoked for a long time, anyone can snap and write something not so wise, in anger. That's only natural, even if undesired.

Someone bullied me here for months without anyone saying A THING. NADA..NIENTE...RIEN..INGENTING. People like the ones whining now said absolutely nothing when I was bullied by this person. This was apparently OK. So can anyone say "hypocrisy"? If you apply different standards do different people just because you might agree with one and not with another you lose credibility and your complaint looks hypocritical..

Now, I don't find the skin colour of Indians particularly attractive. I don't think it is flattering to the looks, generally speaking, and neither do many Indians, since skin bleaching continues to be a popular way of enhancing one's beauty in India and in Asia in general, and fair skin is very much desired.

The word I used was uncalled for, not nice at all, and of course hurtful. For that I am sorry. To those who are Indians and who have done nothing to deserve the word I used I am sorry.

I am sure there are many good and kind Indians out there, and even though one sometimes says things here that are negative, since we do talk about physical appearance here, this is something one has to take into context, never forgetting what this site deals with..physical appearance and beauty.

If a site discusses inner matters, race, skin colour, eye colour, hair etc. don't matter at all, of course. Here - on this site - the topic is NOT inner matters, nor politics. It deals with beauty, femininity and LOOKS. Some people here tend to forget this (sometimes conveniently).

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 10:00 just noting Maria McBane

Erik, likening someone's skin to feces is much more insulting than likening it to the complexion of a pig. Remember that movie "Babe"? That pig was pretty cute! As far as Peter's comments go he did indeed provoke Emily but at least he has a sense of humor about all this. This site essentially stands in front of a mirror chanting "Mirror mirror on the wall who's the fairest of them all" and everyone , especially you and Emily, take it so seriously.

re the double standard regarding racism: I don't approve of it but I'll never understand why adults of any race are so sensitive about this that they can't slough off a few insults. No race is perfect, be Indians or Nordics.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 09:34 Reese Rhinoplasty in Stockholm, Sweden: comments on the fine, straight and chiseled Nordic nose

EMILY YOU ARE BY FAR THE BIGGEST LOSER I HAVE EVER WITNESSED.

FIRSTLY, YOU SAY THAT WHITE MEN THAT SLEEP WITH ASIAN WOMEN ARE LOSERS, SO I ASSUME YOUR TALKIN ABOUT THE "MINORITY" OF WHITE MEN WHO ARE APPARENTLY INCAPABLE OF SOCIAL INTERACTION AND COMPETING WITH OTHER MEN.

BUT THEN YOU GO ON THIS DEVIL RANT THAT ASIAN WOMEN ARE THE REASON YOUR RACE IS DYING??

AS A MAN, I PERSONALLY FIND EUROPEAN, WHITE, ASIANS AND INDIANS BEAUTIFUL. ALL FROM DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS AND ALL GORGEOUS IN THEIR OWN RIGHT. NOT ALL WHITES ARE PHYSICALLY ATTRACTIVE AND NOT ALL ASIANS ARE EITHER. EVERYONE, NO MATTER WHAT RACE HAS AN INDIVIDUAL APPEAL.

WHITE PEOPLE AREN'T GOING INTO EXTINCTION SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOUR CRYING ABOUT. THERE IS MORE THEN ONE RACE IN THE WORLD, AND WHITE PEOPLE WERE NOT THE FIRST RACE ON EARTH. I ACTUALLY THINK THAT YOU WANT TO LOOK LIKE ONE OF THOSE NORDIC GIRLS YOU POSTED, BUT SADLY YOUR PROBABLY MIDDLE-AGED, FAT, WITH A PIG NOSE AND HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO FRIENDS, THATS WHY YOU SPEND YOUR TIME ONLINE.

YOUR THE MOST HIGHLY UNEDUCATED SPECIES I HAVE COME ACROSS.

GO KILL YOURSELF, I BET YOUR PARENTS WON'T EVEN MISS YOU...OH WAIT UNLESS YOUR DAD RAN OFF WITH AN ASIAN WOMAN...HAHAHA IS THAT WHY YOUR SO BITTER?

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 09:25 just noting Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

"Race mixed people often look a little odd"

People with parents from the same ethnic group often look a little inbred.

"Even now the amount of babies born in the US with blue eyes is declining, so it is happening right now"

Prove that is due specifically to interracial marriage as opposed to increased immigration and a decline in white birth rates. And even if it's due to interracial marriage only the Stormfront crowd would think a blue eyed population is worth having people forsake their true loves. You're almost alone in finding dark eyes ugly.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 09:15 just noting Rhinoplasty in Stockholm, Sweden: comments on the fine, straight and chiseled Nordic nose

btw, I don't have anything against Nordics and Swedes. It's just the implicit premise of this site that Nordics are the Platonic essence of both masculinity and femininity that I object to.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 09:11 just noting Rhinoplasty in Stockholm, Sweden: comments on the fine, straight and chiseled Nordic nose

"Since they are shorter and shubbier to begin with they tend to lose any girly looks quickly and can look matronly and very coarse early on."

Short women do tend to look older if they gain weight, but if they can keep the weight off they age much better. I've known many Italian women who kept their weight low and often looked ten years younger than their age. Slender black women also age extremely well. A translucent complexion, on the other hand, shows lines, discolorations, and wrinkles much earlier especially if they love outdoor sports. Not so bad if you can afford plastic surgery but most can't.

"I've never heard that ridiculous statement before. Since I'm Swedish I can say that it's not true. Ethnic Swedes aren't vain. They keep clean but they don't stay all day in front of a mirror. Italian men, on the other hand, are well-known for their vanity, so that would be a better example"

I agree with you about Italian men but they are also extremely bold about approaching women (far bolder than Americans or Brits) and that type of swagger is a very masculine trait. According to what I've read Swedish men are known for being very reluctant to make the first move (when sober). Now assuming there's truth in this it obviously wouldn't apply to every individual. Foreigners sometimes see a society far more clearly than do it's native inhabitants (see Alexis de Toqueville's insights about America). But I'll concede that I don't have experience with Swedish men so I'll remain agnostic on the subject.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 06:27 Voice of Reason Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

Emily,

I feel really sorry for you.

Being proud of your race is one thing but to have all this hate and contempt, you have some really serious psychological issues.

For your own sake, you need to get a job and stop spamming the website with pictures and obnoxious comments before you completely lose your mental health.
To be honest, I think that I place too much value on looks and I shouldn't really. I just visit this site because I am bored at work so it's really surprising and depressing to see someone who is so obsessed with race and the beauty of the white race.

There are far more important things in life and you need to get a life. Get well soon, honey!

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 02:16 Erik Maria McBane

Voice of Reason: I am not saying anything anonymously here. I am using my real name. And, what is lowly about my statement? Peter is making skin color an issue when it isn’t. Explaining Emily’s behavior is not the same as condoning it. I asked her not to write those things here, for the sake of the Gods. People have left negative comments about European skin at this site, comparing the pink varieties to pig skin. I don’t see you or others like you complaining about it, and I have not expressed disapproval of this analogy or asked this person to not say it again. But I asked Emily to refrain. So you should be pleased with my behavior. Personally I don’t see either analogy as racist, but unlike the pig skin analogy, repeating the feces analogy will result in trashed discussions, and hence I had to ask Emily to stop.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 02:01 hmhm Sensation seeking and men’s preference for facial femininity in women

I am glad you find Megan Fox beautiful! I was starting to think you weird because of all those - hope you won't be offended - BORING-looking women you posted. LOL. :D

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 01:59 hmhm Sensation seeking and men’s preference for facial femininity in women

I am glad you find Megan Fox beautiful! I was starting to think you weird because of all those - hope you won't be offended - BORING-looking women you posted. LOL. :D

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 01:51 hmhm Ekaterina Joukova: Why do modeling agencies not book me?

In fact, that comment applies to most of the women whose photos are posted in this site. They are prettier than the average woman, but they are not - definitely not - the most beautiful around. I even would call them boring. Except for their bodies, of course.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 01:51 Erik Using adult actresses and nude models to infer what heterosexual men prefer in women’s looks

Brownie locks: What are the examples of me backpedaling and moving the goalpost?

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 01:48 hmhm Ekaterina Joukova: Why do modeling agencies not book me?

Ekaterina Joukova is cute, but there's really nothing special about the way she looks. I wouldn't give her a second look when she passes by me.

Tue, 05/19/2009 - 00:34 Emily Self-esteem issues related to the feminine beauty site

"Racists love arguing that mixed actors and models benefit from the white parents while completely ignoring the fact that mixed kids have 50/50 DNA and this is what makes them good looking."

Then you presume that the 50/50 % is the same as gaining equally..in other words, that all races benefit equally. I don't think that is the case.

I would argue that racially mixed, good-looking people more often than not own their looks to their white genes. In other words, they look good since they approach the looks of whites. The more they alienate themselves from the looks of whites the less good they look, generally speaking.

The fact is we are not benefitting equally. Whites often give much MORE than they receive in terms of looks, while pure blacks and asians might benefit quite a lot from race mixing. This is often at the expense of whites, who most of the time will have much more beautiful children with another white person, not to mention that the gene pool will be corrupted and fewer truly white children will be born in the future if we increase the race mixing. An inconvenient truth for the politically correct.

Is race mixing really a fair deal..?

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