As if she would be honest and post the real ones. Strawberry-blonde hair and blue-green eyes when one parent is Puertorican? The irony is that she described MY colours, except for the deep colour of the eyes. Mine are bright blue-green. I have two pure Nordic parents who have blue-grey and green-blue eyes, and blonde and light-brown hair.
If you have a Hispanic parent who maybe even carry also some black genes (Puertoricans are often very dark) you don't get to have blonde children with blue eyes. That is HIGHLY unlikely. Ultimately it doesn't matter what she looks like, though. She could be a space alien for all I know. It is what she writes that matters, and what she writes is ridiculous.
According to her Nordics are basically half-Asians and Indians "very much resemble" Nordics except for their colors. She writes like a nut, then posts pictures of half-Indians and try to say they look Nordic. I laughed when I saw that because she had Indian written all over her, even with one Anglo-Saxon parent.
Nordic-looking Indians. It's all just in the color, people. They are really just deeply tanned Nordics. That's what Kayla says so it must be true. After all, she reads books.
Then why the.... don't they look like this? Swede.
Swede.
Really just Indians with blonde hair and blue eyes, according to some. Indian Brahmins, maybe? I wonder how many laughs I would get if I said that to people and showed them the picture.
Erik i was wondering if high foreheads are a Caucasian trait? Not taking balding into account.
I don't like the fact that this lady's hairline/forehead region is small. She would look beter if her forehead was higher.
She is very feminine looking to me. Although i am a little surprised that you used her Eric because her nose is on the broader side. You seem to be a big fan of extremely small/refined noses.
Erik!
You responded to me :) I am happy to be "talking" to you.
When i first saw the lady's side view picture i noticed her less gracile and hence more "masculine" forehead nose region and the jaw gonial angle. Seeing her front view proves that she has a "stronger" jaw. I didn't say she looks masculine, just those particular areas which i pointed out. I was just wondering if you were going to use a model to show the nasion area, why not use a model with a more smoother/ "feminine" area? I have seen plenty of pictures here.
I have a very similar side profile to this lady in terms of nose forehead region and jaw angle.
Erik, Aesthetically speaking i don't really like her nose from side view. It looks "pushed/stumped" up. Additionally can i suggest some women for the attractive women category? Can they be non white? but Caucasoid?
Also I don't find anything wrong with the lady personally but since this site is about looks and such, i think it is fair that i pointed those things out :)
Jacqueline Blackman does not have "thick legs" - I hope that she only agreed with the argument Jay Manuel made to shup him up.
Miranda Kerr is pretty, but she isn't beautiful. Her nose is a bit too sharp and angular for my taste - I prefer more rounded noses. Everyone's nose keeps growing their whole life - think what her nose will look like when she's 65!
For the record, I think Kayla B is trolling. I have never said anything about individual posters but to me this is a person who has mental problems and a total obsession with racial issues, probably due to some deep-seated inferiority complexes. She claims not to read much about this subject but all she says contradicts her. That's probably all she ever does. I also suspect she has posted under other nicknames here. She is fanatically obsessed with racial issues, with a particular emphasis on trying to turn white/Nordics more or less into Asians.
Look, let's all agree on this; white/Nordics really are just half-Asians and probably also very much Neanderthal. All the things that distinguish the white race are really just illusions and we are all just more or less Asian and Indian.
Asian, Puertorican and Indian women are the most desirable and feminine creatures that ever walked the earth and no one should pay any attention to white women since they are so incredibly ugly.
Any desirable traits you see in Nordic women are just the Asian parts shining through so why not go for the real thing? We all must come to this conclusion and stop worshipping on the altar of the overvalued white woman.
Now there. I have spared Kayla time and energy, and she can finally catch some breath and get a life and a hobby that is more sane.
"Many if not the majority of Swedes are mixed with Samis."
Cite reliable sources for that statement. The Sami is are very closed-knit and isolated group of people, not only geographically but also socially and culturally. They have never had any desire to mix with other Swedes or Norwegians and they very much keep to themselves - much like native Americans, I presume. By the way, you should lay off with the DNA bit. It's irrelevant and ridiculous.
You, are a complete fucker.
What are you trying to achieve here?
Listen to yourself!!
"These are the women that unfortunately had small breasts, so I couldn't put them in the "attractive women section"."
Hey! I think i'll make a site and put all the photos of men I find into different categories and say things like
"These are the guys that unfortunately didn't have "normal" penis sizes. So I couldn't put them in the "good looking" section."
You're an ass.
I have small breasts. I'm not an unattractive looking girl. People like you are the reason implants are around..
Reposting the same photo won't give you a different answer. Just because this person is on a Swedish website doesn't mean she is the best representative for Nordics. People of all kinds of races and ethnicities post there. What kind of silly argument is that? There are some in Sweden who have heavier features due to the Finnish/Slavic influence, probably. Especially if they are from Stockholm or above. These will sometimes have broader/rounder faces, bigger cheekbones and generally somewhat heavier features. They will look more robust.
Oh, and Erik this is kind of a personal question:)
You don't have to answer if you don't want. Have you ever dated a more masculine woman? Were you not able to be attracted to her AT ALL? Jus wonderin! When I saw your post on "how to have a god like son" and how you thought that woman was masculine but beautiful nonetheless I don't know it just made me look at you differently. It showed me that you understand something beyond attraction, something called beauty. lol well i got that crap from kayla b's beauty thing philosiphy but it got me thinking and there really is a diff. and you saw that Erik you just haven't realized it
Erik,
someone on here made a good point. I often see white women with black men. I don't mean just your regular white
women either. I mean the tall blue eyed blonde women that are naturally blonde. Are they attracted to black men
because black men are so masculine and white women (north women) are feminine? Even in Sweden the high status women go for darker guys whether in terms of hair color or skin color. Why is this? Is darker more masculine?
I looked it up and I believe what I learned in school is the "Out of India" theory? Which theory did you post? I really need to study it. I haven't looked over anything about Indians or "Aryans" since high school, but now this really grabbed my attention.
Sami argument:
Yah, what I meant by "recent" Sami is that the person still holds many Asian qualities. Some Northern Europeans mixed with Sami a loooong time ago and have since only continued mixing with more Northern Europeans, so that Sami characteristics rarely show up, rather more recent Northern European characteristics show up and you can barely tell they have any Asian DNA whatsoever. Your genes don't ever get diluted, but some people have more "obvious" expressions of genes in terms of race. I posted those pictures up to show that even thought those people have very Nordic features, they evidently still have very Asian features that are very well expressed. Blonde hair is not possible without both parents having that genes, so the blonde Sami girls couldn't be half Sami. I just wanted to show Emily that Northern Europeans have Asian admixture as well. Since she finds Asians so repulsive, I find it ironic and amusing that Sami people exist in Sweden. And yes I agree that Asian features often improve Nordic looks, however sometimes they do just the opposite.
Erik, would you mind giving me the source of your material and where you found your information? I have studied scholarly articles and books and that is where I got my information from. I am wondering where you got your theories from? I don't know who is more accurate. I am sure I am not 100% accurate, but I don't think you are either. I have never actually heard of anything you said or read anything on it. I have read about the out of Africa theory, and how we all branched out. I have read a bit on cro-magnons and neanderthals and ancient ancestry but not a lot. What I learned about Indians being the Aryans, Northern Africans, etc. I learned at my school. It is a Catholic private school though and not typical of the schools over here where I live specifically, so now I am questioning what I have been taught and why I haven't been taught any other theories. I would really enjoy reading wherever you got your sources. Can you please tell me the name of the articles/research? Anthropology is really interesting to me. Thanks!
The argument between Bourne and Emily appears to be related to the usage of Nordic. Emily is using a strict definition, namely a Scandinavian (a Norwegian or Swede using a stricter geographic definition). Bourne is presumably referring to the light coloring that suggests a significant Nordic element in Ekaterina, where Nordic is more generically used as a Northern European not limited to Scandinavia. Northern European tribes have occupied Eastern Europe for thousands of years. The word Russia derives from the Rus, a branch of the Vikings (Nordics using Emily’s strict definition) that moved to Russia and Ukraine. So Ekaterina is close to an Eastern type of the various Northern European people out there and presumably has a lot of Nordic genetics. You will find plenty of people in Russia and the Ukraine that would easily blend in among Western or Scandinavian Northern Europeans, though not Ekaterina because she has a clear Eastern look to her.
THE INDO-EUROPEANS
This is a reply to Kayla B.
You said that Indo-Europeans are essentially Middle Easterners or Indians. This is incorrect. The original Indo-Europeans were Nordic-type people that spread over a wide region ranging from Europe to India and hence the Indo-European designation. Ethnically, these people did not resemble Middle Eastern or South Asian people existing either today or when the Indo-Europeans encountered them for the first time, and even though many Indo-European tribes spread from the Russian Caucasus region, you can be reasonably sure that their looks didn’t lean toward Asiatic because a few thousand years ago Central Asia and large parts of East Asia were occupied by Northern European types and there weren’t any East Asians in the region to alter their looks. The original Indo-Europeans were a very Nordic-looking people.
You mentioned long noses being an Aryan characteristic shared by Europeans, Indians and North Africans. If nose length is considered in relation to face length, among these populations, the shortest noses will disproportionately be found in India and the longest in some Middle Eastern populations. Skull, face and nose lengths are hardly features with which to infer shared ancestry. Many more elements should be considered.
Indians are not the true Aryans. The Aryans were a European people that migrated to the region and subsequently disappeared as a distinct ethnic group. Today it is rare to find people in India that would look Northern European if they had white skin. Incidentally, none of your pictures of Indians reveal people with Nordic face shapes though you could find some such Indians. Even the half Indian, Katrina Kaif, has a face shape that looks Middle Eastern, not Nordic. You mentioned Hitler realizing the connection between the Northern Europeans he admired and people in India. What is this connection? Lost white tribes set up a civilization in a far-away land well before Christ’s birth and far away from the Middle East, which is where the Biblical worldview would place the origin of Western civilization. Scholars who were not too keen on adopting the Biblical worldview were happy to be able to trace white/Germanic cultural origins to a long-lost European people distant from the Middle East, and Hitler and others adopted some of the cultural elements of the Aryans to symbolize the noble, the good and the spirit of the white man, the most recognizable element being the Swastika. Aryan in Sanskrit means noble. Over time the word Aryan in India came to encompass people that didn’t have much in common with the original Aryans, but the untouchables of India, a substantial minority (like 1 in 6), were never classified as part of the Aryan community, and so your including all Indians in the basic Aryan group (though you allow for some Asian element) does not go with the Indians’ own classification.
THE ASIATIC ELEMENT IN SWEDEN
Another reply to Kayla B.
You said that “Sweden has an indigenous group of people that are very close to Asians DNA wise or even technically Asian called the Sami.” This is incorrect. The Sami are a Northern Scandinavian Nordic-Asian mixed people, with the Nordic element predominating, on average. Then you posted pictures of recent Sami/Nordic mixes, but these people are Sami (Nordic-Asian mixes, more Nordic than Asian).
You then started talking about an Asian element in Swedes and other Nordics. Most Nordics have no significant East Asian genetic material or else they would not retain their high frequency of light hair and light eyes. Besides, some of the so-called Asian DNA in Nordics, more so in Finland, is not Asian ethnically. Until a few thousand years ago, Central Asia and large parts of East Asia were occupied by European people. The genes of these European people that have ended up in Finland and neighboring populations have technically come from Asia geographically, but not ethnically.
Within any population you will find people with faces ranging from wide to narrow. It is silly to look at round or wide-faced Nordics and come to the conclusion that they have Asian DNA when their light pigmentation, body shape and numerous other characteristics suggest no more than an insignificant amount of East Asian genetic material, if at all. This goes for the Swedish girl that you claim to have discernible distant Sami DNA based on her face. If you believe that Asian mixture can improve the looks of a Nordic, I’d say you are correct; it can sometimes, but this improvement will almost never be because the face is shifted toward East Asian norms but because of other factors. If this doesn’t make sense, wait for me to post an article on this topic.
Wow. Great statistics there Emily. Have you cited your sources? Also, Indians again are an ARYAN DOLICHOCEPHALIC group. They are not all Brahmins but they are all Aryan. I told you the ones with braod faces that you post up, are obviously mixed with upper Asians. Do you know where India is Emily? South Asia!
I am half puerto rican, I never said I was 100% Nordic. Yes I do have blonde hair. Yes it is natural. I have other DNA but I don't know what it is. I just know my immediate heritage. My mother is Puerto Rican and my father is Nordic. I lived in the South of the United States all my life. I grew up around white people and I look very white. I tan easier than white people and I have more Puerto Rican shaped eyes and fuller lips, but I look really white. I know my mom isn't 100% Puerto Rican but we don't know what else she is so I just say I'm half puerto rican. I am proud that I have other genes. It makes me look good. But overall, I have Nordic bone structure. I was born with strawberry blonde hair and dark blue-green eyes. I think that is pretty Nordic. I have larger lips but they are nice:)
You are so ignorant seriously.
Who said Indians look Nordic if they dye their hair blondes? When did I say that? Please pay attention to bone structure and not pigmentation. I claimed they looked Nordic just darker. Because their bone structure, dolicephalic skulls are Nordic! Especially with lack of Asian admixture. Please read an anthropology or history book.
Many if not the majority of Swedes are mixed with Samis. Yes, the Samis are not a huge part of Sweden, but admixture with them is a huge part. Germany has more Nordic looking type people often because they have no Asian mixture. Most of Europe is somehow mixed with some type of Asian DNA because of the groups interacting or because of invasion such as Eastern Europe. There are few places that don't have any. Many Swedes and Finns etc. are mixed with Samis or an Asian type of people. It is clearly evident. Like I said Emily, go get your DNA tested. I think you will be surprised.
The last girl I posted is a typical Swedish. You live in Sweden, don't you know what the website Snyggast is? It is a Swedish social website equal to hot or not in the U.S. She obviously is Swedish with Asian admixture. She is clearly beautiful. I agree she does not look like a typical Swede. She looks better than the typical Swede.
SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE I AM GOING TO COLLECT PICTURES OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NOSES ON MEN AND WOMEN .FULL FACE PORTRATES/ HEAD SHOTS, TO FILL THE COMPUTER SCREEN ...NONE OF THIS THUMB NAIL SIZE.
I WANT TO HAVE A WEB SITE .I THINK THIS WILL BE CALLED NOSE BEAUTIFUL.
I WANT TO PRESENT FACE PROFILES OF NOSES .I MAY HAVE TO DO THIS IN BLACK AND WHITE BECAUSE OF DOWN LOAD TIME ..FULL FACE LARGE SCREEN TO SHOW GOOD NOSES ..
I WILL DEPICT MODEL FACES VS WHAT THESE SERGENS CALL IMPRFOVEMENTS.
IF YOU LOOKED AT 200 PICTURES OF BEFOR AND AFTER NOSE JOBS I SAY 99% OF THE PEOPLE STILL NEED A NOSE JOB .
SUCH IMMESURABLE,MINISCULE CHANGES,WHATS THE POINT
GET HEAD SHOTS 8 BY 12 AND HAVE AN ARTIST HAND DRAW /AMMEND YOUR NOSE .
CONSIDER PHOTO SHOT TO CHANGE YOUR NOSE..
MOST DOCTORS ARE LAZZY AND WILL TGRY TO CONVINCE YOU THAT MINIMUM IMPROVEMENT IS WHAT IS NEEDED ..
A GOOD **CANDIDATE IS THERE CODE WORD FOR A SUCKER TO PAY HIGH AND GET VERY LITTLE WORK DONE.
I HAND FIFTHY DOCTORS TELL ME THERE LIES ..NOSE COLAPSE ..THICK SPIN ..I WAS ASKING FOR TOO MUCH..
WATCH OUT THE LATEST STYLE AMONG THESE CUTTERS IS THE STRIGHT RAZOR NOSE JOB LOOK.
EAZY TO FOR THEM AND GOOD PAY .. THEY ARE ALL DOING THE SAME LOOK ...
YOUR FACE AND NOSE SAY EVERY THING ABOUT YOU .IT MUST BE PERFECT..
Alice lol
I wouldn't be picking you anyways...I am gay :P
But no little things like that don't matter to me personally, but since some people have "unrealistically" high standards. I wanted to point it out.
Peter: The forehead-nose junction is smoother in women, and the woman’s doesn’t look masculine, especially because of how it all fits together. More of her face. If the notch at the forehead-nose junction were shallower in her, it would look more feminine, but there are only two ways to achieve this in her: either make the nasal bones project forward or make the forhead retract backward. A retracted forehead would make her look odd, whereas more projecting nasal bones will make the nasals’ projection look more masculine. She is fine as is.
Kayla B.: The more projecting nasal bones of European women are an ethnic feature, not related to masculinity-femininity, and by themselves they don’t present a masculine appearance: Lisa, Amy. You said, “And I know you are going to argue that Nordic women are the most feminine,” but I would not. My argument is that they look more overall feminine on average, not that they are more feminine. The reason is that I am not concerned with sex hormone profiles and sex steroid receptor sensistivity among other factors related to physical femininity as far as this site is concerned.
Brahmins are not attractive people. They don't look white. There are Brahmins in every state but the system is slowly fading. Indians do not look like Swedes. Even if they dye their hair blonde, they won't look like swedes. Why? Because they are not Swedes. There was no mixing amongst the two. Ever.
These are not women, these are GIRLS. You are one nasty old dude.
As if she would be honest and post the real ones. Strawberry-blonde hair and blue-green eyes when one parent is Puertorican? The irony is that she described MY colours, except for the deep colour of the eyes. Mine are bright blue-green. I have two pure Nordic parents who have blue-grey and green-blue eyes, and blonde and light-brown hair.
If you have a Hispanic parent who maybe even carry also some black genes (Puertoricans are often very dark) you don't get to have blonde children with blue eyes. That is HIGHLY unlikely. Ultimately it doesn't matter what she looks like, though. She could be a space alien for all I know. It is what she writes that matters, and what she writes is ridiculous.
According to her Nordics are basically half-Asians and Indians "very much resemble" Nordics except for their colors. She writes like a nut, then posts pictures of half-Indians and try to say they look Nordic. I laughed when I saw that because she had Indian written all over her, even with one Anglo-Saxon parent.
Nordic-looking Indians. It's all just in the color, people. They are really just deeply tanned Nordics. That's what Kayla says so it must be true. After all, she reads books.
Then why the.... don't they look like this? Swede.
Swede.
Really just Indians with blonde hair and blue eyes, according to some. Indian Brahmins, maybe? I wonder how many laughs I would get if I said that to people and showed them the picture.
Erik i was wondering if high foreheads are a Caucasian trait? Not taking balding into account.
I don't like the fact that this lady's hairline/forehead region is small. She would look beter if her forehead was higher.
She is very feminine looking to me. Although i am a little surprised that you used her Eric because her nose is on the broader side. You seem to be a big fan of extremely small/refined noses.
ask Kayla for pictures of herself.
I think this girl is very pretty/cute. She could turn me straight :D
Erik!
You responded to me :) I am happy to be "talking" to you.
When i first saw the lady's side view picture i noticed her less gracile and hence more "masculine" forehead nose region and the jaw gonial angle. Seeing her front view proves that she has a "stronger" jaw. I didn't say she looks masculine, just those particular areas which i pointed out. I was just wondering if you were going to use a model to show the nasion area, why not use a model with a more smoother/ "feminine" area? I have seen plenty of pictures here.
I have a very similar side profile to this lady in terms of nose forehead region and jaw angle.
Erik, Aesthetically speaking i don't really like her nose from side view. It looks "pushed/stumped" up. Additionally can i suggest some women for the attractive women category? Can they be non white? but Caucasoid?
Also I don't find anything wrong with the lady personally but since this site is about looks and such, i think it is fair that i pointed those things out :)
Jacqueline Blackman does not have "thick legs" - I hope that she only agreed with the argument Jay Manuel made to shup him up.
Miranda Kerr is pretty, but she isn't beautiful. Her nose is a bit too sharp and angular for my taste - I prefer more rounded noses. Everyone's nose keeps growing their whole life - think what her nose will look like when she's 65!
"I am half puerto rican, I never said I was 100% Nordic. Yes I do have blonde hair. Yes it is natural."
The statistical probability that this person is lying is overwhelming.
For the record, I think Kayla B is trolling. I have never said anything about individual posters but to me this is a person who has mental problems and a total obsession with racial issues, probably due to some deep-seated inferiority complexes. She claims not to read much about this subject but all she says contradicts her. That's probably all she ever does. I also suspect she has posted under other nicknames here. She is fanatically obsessed with racial issues, with a particular emphasis on trying to turn white/Nordics more or less into Asians.
Look, let's all agree on this; white/Nordics really are just half-Asians and probably also very much Neanderthal. All the things that distinguish the white race are really just illusions and we are all just more or less Asian and Indian.
Asian, Puertorican and Indian women are the most desirable and feminine creatures that ever walked the earth and no one should pay any attention to white women since they are so incredibly ugly.
Any desirable traits you see in Nordic women are just the Asian parts shining through so why not go for the real thing? We all must come to this conclusion and stop worshipping on the altar of the overvalued white woman.
Now there. I have spared Kayla time and energy, and she can finally catch some breath and get a life and a hobby that is more sane.
"Many if not the majority of Swedes are mixed with Samis."
Cite reliable sources for that statement. The Sami is are very closed-knit and isolated group of people, not only geographically but also socially and culturally. They have never had any desire to mix with other Swedes or Norwegians and they very much keep to themselves - much like native Americans, I presume. By the way, you should lay off with the DNA bit. It's irrelevant and ridiculous.
You, are a complete fucker.
What are you trying to achieve here?
Listen to yourself!!
"These are the women that unfortunately had small breasts, so I couldn't put them in the "attractive women section"."
Hey! I think i'll make a site and put all the photos of men I find into different categories and say things like
"These are the guys that unfortunately didn't have "normal" penis sizes. So I couldn't put them in the "good looking" section."
You're an ass.
I have small breasts. I'm not an unattractive looking girl. People like you are the reason implants are around..
Reposting the same photo won't give you a different answer. Just because this person is on a Swedish website doesn't mean she is the best representative for Nordics. People of all kinds of races and ethnicities post there. What kind of silly argument is that? There are some in Sweden who have heavier features due to the Finnish/Slavic influence, probably. Especially if they are from Stockholm or above. These will sometimes have broader/rounder faces, bigger cheekbones and generally somewhat heavier features. They will look more robust.
Finnish women;
Oh, and Erik this is kind of a personal question:)
You don't have to answer if you don't want. Have you ever dated a more masculine woman? Were you not able to be attracted to her AT ALL? Jus wonderin! When I saw your post on "how to have a god like son" and how you thought that woman was masculine but beautiful nonetheless I don't know it just made me look at you differently. It showed me that you understand something beyond attraction, something called beauty. lol well i got that crap from kayla b's beauty thing philosiphy but it got me thinking and there really is a diff. and you saw that Erik you just haven't realized it
Erik,
someone on here made a good point. I often see white women with black men. I don't mean just your regular white
women either. I mean the tall blue eyed blonde women that are naturally blonde. Are they attracted to black men
because black men are so masculine and white women (north women) are feminine? Even in Sweden the high status women go for darker guys whether in terms of hair color or skin color. Why is this? Is darker more masculine?
I looked it up and I believe what I learned in school is the "Out of India" theory? Which theory did you post? I really need to study it. I haven't looked over anything about Indians or "Aryans" since high school, but now this really grabbed my attention.
Sami argument:
Yah, what I meant by "recent" Sami is that the person still holds many Asian qualities. Some Northern Europeans mixed with Sami a loooong time ago and have since only continued mixing with more Northern Europeans, so that Sami characteristics rarely show up, rather more recent Northern European characteristics show up and you can barely tell they have any Asian DNA whatsoever. Your genes don't ever get diluted, but some people have more "obvious" expressions of genes in terms of race. I posted those pictures up to show that even thought those people have very Nordic features, they evidently still have very Asian features that are very well expressed. Blonde hair is not possible without both parents having that genes, so the blonde Sami girls couldn't be half Sami. I just wanted to show Emily that Northern Europeans have Asian admixture as well. Since she finds Asians so repulsive, I find it ironic and amusing that Sami people exist in Sweden. And yes I agree that Asian features often improve Nordic looks, however sometimes they do just the opposite.
Erik, would you mind giving me the source of your material and where you found your information? I have studied scholarly articles and books and that is where I got my information from. I am wondering where you got your theories from? I don't know who is more accurate. I am sure I am not 100% accurate, but I don't think you are either. I have never actually heard of anything you said or read anything on it. I have read about the out of Africa theory, and how we all branched out. I have read a bit on cro-magnons and neanderthals and ancient ancestry but not a lot. What I learned about Indians being the Aryans, Northern Africans, etc. I learned at my school. It is a Catholic private school though and not typical of the schools over here where I live specifically, so now I am questioning what I have been taught and why I haven't been taught any other theories. I would really enjoy reading wherever you got your sources. Can you please tell me the name of the articles/research? Anthropology is really interesting to me. Thanks!
WHAT IS A NORDIC?
The argument between Bourne and Emily appears to be related to the usage of Nordic. Emily is using a strict definition, namely a Scandinavian (a Norwegian or Swede using a stricter geographic definition). Bourne is presumably referring to the light coloring that suggests a significant Nordic element in Ekaterina, where Nordic is more generically used as a Northern European not limited to Scandinavia. Northern European tribes have occupied Eastern Europe for thousands of years. The word Russia derives from the Rus, a branch of the Vikings (Nordics using Emily’s strict definition) that moved to Russia and Ukraine. So Ekaterina is close to an Eastern type of the various Northern European people out there and presumably has a lot of Nordic genetics. You will find plenty of people in Russia and the Ukraine that would easily blend in among Western or Scandinavian Northern Europeans, though not Ekaterina because she has a clear Eastern look to her.
THE INDO-EUROPEANS
This is a reply to Kayla B.
You said that Indo-Europeans are essentially Middle Easterners or Indians. This is incorrect. The original Indo-Europeans were Nordic-type people that spread over a wide region ranging from Europe to India and hence the Indo-European designation. Ethnically, these people did not resemble Middle Eastern or South Asian people existing either today or when the Indo-Europeans encountered them for the first time, and even though many Indo-European tribes spread from the Russian Caucasus region, you can be reasonably sure that their looks didn’t lean toward Asiatic because a few thousand years ago Central Asia and large parts of East Asia were occupied by Northern European types and there weren’t any East Asians in the region to alter their looks. The original Indo-Europeans were a very Nordic-looking people.
You mentioned long noses being an Aryan characteristic shared by Europeans, Indians and North Africans. If nose length is considered in relation to face length, among these populations, the shortest noses will disproportionately be found in India and the longest in some Middle Eastern populations. Skull, face and nose lengths are hardly features with which to infer shared ancestry. Many more elements should be considered.
Indians are not the true Aryans. The Aryans were a European people that migrated to the region and subsequently disappeared as a distinct ethnic group. Today it is rare to find people in India that would look Northern European if they had white skin. Incidentally, none of your pictures of Indians reveal people with Nordic face shapes though you could find some such Indians. Even the half Indian, Katrina Kaif, has a face shape that looks Middle Eastern, not Nordic. You mentioned Hitler realizing the connection between the Northern Europeans he admired and people in India. What is this connection? Lost white tribes set up a civilization in a far-away land well before Christ’s birth and far away from the Middle East, which is where the Biblical worldview would place the origin of Western civilization. Scholars who were not too keen on adopting the Biblical worldview were happy to be able to trace white/Germanic cultural origins to a long-lost European people distant from the Middle East, and Hitler and others adopted some of the cultural elements of the Aryans to symbolize the noble, the good and the spirit of the white man, the most recognizable element being the Swastika. Aryan in Sanskrit means noble. Over time the word Aryan in India came to encompass people that didn’t have much in common with the original Aryans, but the untouchables of India, a substantial minority (like 1 in 6), were never classified as part of the Aryan community, and so your including all Indians in the basic Aryan group (though you allow for some Asian element) does not go with the Indians’ own classification.
THE ASIATIC ELEMENT IN SWEDEN
Another reply to Kayla B.
You said that “Sweden has an indigenous group of people that are very close to Asians DNA wise or even technically Asian called the Sami.” This is incorrect. The Sami are a Northern Scandinavian Nordic-Asian mixed people, with the Nordic element predominating, on average. Then you posted pictures of recent Sami/Nordic mixes, but these people are Sami (Nordic-Asian mixes, more Nordic than Asian).
You then started talking about an Asian element in Swedes and other Nordics. Most Nordics have no significant East Asian genetic material or else they would not retain their high frequency of light hair and light eyes. Besides, some of the so-called Asian DNA in Nordics, more so in Finland, is not Asian ethnically. Until a few thousand years ago, Central Asia and large parts of East Asia were occupied by European people. The genes of these European people that have ended up in Finland and neighboring populations have technically come from Asia geographically, but not ethnically.
Within any population you will find people with faces ranging from wide to narrow. It is silly to look at round or wide-faced Nordics and come to the conclusion that they have Asian DNA when their light pigmentation, body shape and numerous other characteristics suggest no more than an insignificant amount of East Asian genetic material, if at all. This goes for the Swedish girl that you claim to have discernible distant Sami DNA based on her face. If you believe that Asian mixture can improve the looks of a Nordic, I’d say you are correct; it can sometimes, but this improvement will almost never be because the face is shifted toward East Asian norms but because of other factors. If this doesn’t make sense, wait for me to post an article on this topic.
Wow. Great statistics there Emily. Have you cited your sources? Also, Indians again are an ARYAN DOLICHOCEPHALIC group. They are not all Brahmins but they are all Aryan. I told you the ones with braod faces that you post up, are obviously mixed with upper Asians. Do you know where India is Emily? South Asia!
I am half puerto rican, I never said I was 100% Nordic. Yes I do have blonde hair. Yes it is natural. I have other DNA but I don't know what it is. I just know my immediate heritage. My mother is Puerto Rican and my father is Nordic. I lived in the South of the United States all my life. I grew up around white people and I look very white. I tan easier than white people and I have more Puerto Rican shaped eyes and fuller lips, but I look really white. I know my mom isn't 100% Puerto Rican but we don't know what else she is so I just say I'm half puerto rican. I am proud that I have other genes. It makes me look good. But overall, I have Nordic bone structure. I was born with strawberry blonde hair and dark blue-green eyes. I think that is pretty Nordic. I have larger lips but they are nice:)
You are so ignorant seriously.
Who said Indians look Nordic if they dye their hair blondes? When did I say that? Please pay attention to bone structure and not pigmentation. I claimed they looked Nordic just darker. Because their bone structure, dolicephalic skulls are Nordic! Especially with lack of Asian admixture. Please read an anthropology or history book.
Many if not the majority of Swedes are mixed with Samis. Yes, the Samis are not a huge part of Sweden, but admixture with them is a huge part. Germany has more Nordic looking type people often because they have no Asian mixture. Most of Europe is somehow mixed with some type of Asian DNA because of the groups interacting or because of invasion such as Eastern Europe. There are few places that don't have any. Many Swedes and Finns etc. are mixed with Samis or an Asian type of people. It is clearly evident. Like I said Emily, go get your DNA tested. I think you will be surprised.
The last girl I posted is a typical Swedish. You live in Sweden, don't you know what the website Snyggast is? It is a Swedish social website equal to hot or not in the U.S. She obviously is Swedish with Asian admixture. She is clearly beautiful. I agree she does not look like a typical Swede. She looks better than the typical Swede.
NOW I HAVE MY READING GLASSES ON;
SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE I AM GOING TO COLLECT PICTURES OF THE MOST BEAUTIFUL NOSES ON MEN AND WOMEN .FULL FACE PORTRATES/ HEAD SHOTS, TO FILL THE COMPUTER SCREEN ...NONE OF THIS THUMB NAIL SIZE.
I WANT TO HAVE A WEB SITE .I THINK THIS WILL BE CALLED NOSE BEAUTIFUL.
I WANT TO PRESENT FACE PROFILES OF NOSES .I MAY HAVE TO DO THIS IN BLACK AND WHITE BECAUSE OF DOWN LOAD TIME ..FULL FACE LARGE SCREEN TO SHOW GOOD NOSES ..
I WILL DEPICT MODEL FACES VS WHAT THESE SERGENS CALL IMPRFOVEMENTS.
IF YOU LOOKED AT 200 PICTURES OF BEFOR AND AFTER NOSE JOBS I SAY 99% OF THE PEOPLE STILL NEED A NOSE JOB .
SUCH IMMESURABLE,MINISCULE CHANGES,WHATS THE POINT
GET HEAD SHOTS 8 BY 12 AND HAVE AN ARTIST HAND DRAW /AMMEND YOUR NOSE .
CONSIDER PHOTO SHOT TO CHANGE YOUR NOSE..
MOST DOCTORS ARE LAZZY AND WILL TGRY TO CONVINCE YOU THAT MINIMUM IMPROVEMENT IS WHAT IS NEEDED ..
A GOOD **CANDIDATE IS THERE CODE WORD FOR A SUCKER TO PAY HIGH AND GET VERY LITTLE WORK DONE.
I HAND FIFTHY DOCTORS TELL ME THERE LIES ..NOSE COLAPSE ..THICK SPIN ..I WAS ASKING FOR TOO MUCH..
WATCH OUT THE LATEST STYLE AMONG THESE CUTTERS IS THE STRIGHT RAZOR NOSE JOB LOOK.
EAZY TO FOR THEM AND GOOD PAY .. THEY ARE ALL DOING THE SAME LOOK ...
YOUR FACE AND NOSE SAY EVERY THING ABOUT YOU .IT MUST BE PERFECT..
Alice lol
I wouldn't be picking you anyways...I am gay :P
But no little things like that don't matter to me personally, but since some people have "unrealistically" high standards. I wanted to point it out.
Peter: The forehead-nose junction is smoother in women, and the woman’s doesn’t look masculine, especially because of how it all fits together. More of her face. If the notch at the forehead-nose junction were shallower in her, it would look more feminine, but there are only two ways to achieve this in her: either make the nasal bones project forward or make the forhead retract backward. A retracted forehead would make her look odd, whereas more projecting nasal bones will make the nasals’ projection look more masculine. She is fine as is.
Kayla B.: The more projecting nasal bones of European women are an ethnic feature, not related to masculinity-femininity, and by themselves they don’t present a masculine appearance: Lisa, Amy. You said, “And I know you are going to argue that Nordic women are the most feminine,” but I would not. My argument is that they look more overall feminine on average, not that they are more feminine. The reason is that I am not concerned with sex hormone profiles and sex steroid receptor sensistivity among other factors related to physical femininity as far as this site is concerned.
Brahmins are not attractive people. They don't look white. There are Brahmins in every state but the system is slowly fading. Indians do not look like Swedes. Even if they dye their hair blonde, they won't look like swedes. Why? Because they are not Swedes. There was no mixing amongst the two. Ever.
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